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Author:  Cyclone_Joker [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:05 pm ]
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No, we have to stop raising **** sociopaths.

Author:  Ko [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:09 pm ]
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maybe all men should just stop being rapists

Author:  Van [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:10 pm ]
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Ko wrote:
maybe all men should just stop being rapists

Its clearly the women's fault for dressing like that men are completely dominated by sexual urges and they know that so clearly they're all just asking for it.

(ugh I feel gross even joking about it)

Author:  rstnme [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:13 pm ]
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I don't expect anyone to say anything new in this thread.

Author:  Ko [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:27 pm ]
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Van wrote:

(ugh I feel gross even joking about it)


yeah girls are gross

Author:  iamajellydonut [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:32 pm ]
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rstnme wrote:
I don't expect anyone to say anything new in this thread.

Just wait...

Author:  rstnme [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:41 pm ]
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iamajellydonut wrote:
rstnme wrote:
I don't expect anyone to say anything new in this thread.

Just wait...


These conversations usually devolve into:

~things guys say to imply they're not rapists without directly saying they're not rapists
~kitchensink feminists saying all men are rapists
~reactionary men saying all women are pigs/people trying to be funny implying all women/everyone is a pig
~the well-meaning person trying to argue both sides
~the outraged because people aren't taking this as seriously as said outraged do
~bad jokes in general
~my personal disdain

Then there's the inevitable objectification of women conversation, followed by condescending references to the original OP, in this case the crass and boorish hyperbole of a frat boy, which is universally something to not take seriously. Which someone will then fake-rage a response basically saying rape is always serious, because at some point they decided there was an implication that rape could be not-serious or something. Unfortunately, if you don't respond seriously to rape discourse, someone will get offended and report you to a goblin, or the whole cycle starts again.

Author:  Lokiare [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:45 pm ]
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Cyclone_Joker wrote:


Or teach women to be more assertive and to see through scams...

Author:  GobO_Furt [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:57 pm ]
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Hi guys! It's encouraging that people in this thread are discussing rape culture, and how best to challenge that culture in society. Just a reminder that posts which denigrate or insult people based on their gender are against the Code of Conduct, and may be removed. Although we encourage everyone to share their opinion on this subject, posts which target women specifically in a way that could be interpreted as threatening or condoning violence against women are unacceptable.

Author:  iamajellydonut [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:58 pm ]
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Lokiare wrote:
Or teach women to be more assertive and to see through scams...

Called it. Did not disappoint.

Author:  rstnme [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:00 pm ]
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iamajellydonut wrote:
Lokiare wrote:
Or teach women to be more assertive and to see through scams...

Called it. Did not disappoint.


Damn. I missed the "it was the woman's fault" chauvinism/faux-masculinity. You win by default, but you gotta admit, that's an equally tired trope.

Author:  Van [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:04 pm ]
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GobO_Furt wrote:
Hi guys! It's encouraging that people in this thread are discussing rape culture, and how best to challenge that culture in society. Just a reminder that posts which denigrate or insult people based on their gender are against the Code of Conduct, and may be removed. Although we encourage everyone to share their opinion on this subject, posts which target women specifically in a way that could be interpreted as threatening or condoning violence against women are unacceptable.

Do we really have to tolerate victim-blaming rape survivors?

Author:  Shadowchu [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:06 pm ]
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Lokiare wrote:
Cyclone_Joker wrote:


Or teach women to be more assertive and to see through scams...

"I'm not a Libertarian"

hmm okay.

Social Darwinism isn't a thing, you know.

Author:  AzureShade [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:06 pm ]
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Just a quick question, is there a link to the actual email in question? CNN's link leads to a video of theirs that I can't access from where I am right now and I don't feel like typing "rapebait" into my Google search window here at work.

Author:  iamajellydonut [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:07 pm ]
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rstnme wrote:
Damn. I missed the "it was the woman's fault" chauvinism/faux-masculinity. You win by default, but you gotta admit, that's an equally tired trope.

Nah, you missed the "lokiare".

Author:  iamajellydonut [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:07 pm ]
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AzureShade wrote:
Just a quick question, is there a link to the actual email in question? CNN's link leads to a video of theirs that I can't access from where I am right now and I don't feel like typing "rapebait" into my Google search window here at work.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rapebait

dooo it dooo it dooo it...

Author:  Van [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:08 pm ]
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AzureShade wrote:
Just a quick question, is there a link to the actual email in question? CNN's link leads to a video of theirs that I can't access from where I am right now and I don't feel like typing "rapebait" into my Google search window here at work.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/co ... ity/nbJjY/

Author:  The Butt [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:11 pm ]
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I was raped once, by my last ex, Wasnt good, she pretty much just ripped my pants off and went at it

Author:  AzureShade [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:24 pm ]
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Van wrote:
AzureShade wrote:
Just a quick question, is there a link to the actual email in question? CNN's link leads to a video of theirs that I can't access from where I am right now and I don't feel like typing "rapebait" into my Google search window here at work.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/co ... ity/nbJjY/
Thanks, that was an interesting read. I find it humorous how the phrase "ALWAYS START WITH THE MAKING OUT!!!! NO RAPING." was plastered on at the end of the long instructions on how to get a girl drunk and vulnerable.

Author:  GobO_Furt [ Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:38 pm ]
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door (dooooooooooor) wrote:
so why wasn't lokiare's victim-blaming post deleted?
Van wrote:
Do we really have to tolerate victim-blaming rape survivors?
I appreciate your concern, and believe me, I am sympathetic. Hoever, the CoC only explicitly prohibits sexist slurs and insults, not sexism generally (partly because that's a very large topic and encompasses a very broad range of behaviours". We will be monitoring this thread closely for posts which cross the line into sexist slurs or condoning or supporting violence against women will be removed.
The Butt wrote:
I was raped once, by my last ex, Wasnt good
I'm very sorry to hear that. :(

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