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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:00 pm 
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Does anyone have a suggestion for something that is similar to Spice & Wolf?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:37 pm 
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Duskyblue wrote:
Does anyone have a suggestion for something that is similar to Spice & Wolf?

In what way? I might consider Haibane Renmei in terms of tone and feel, but the themes are quite a bit off.


On another note, I ended up watching my way through A.I.C.O.: Incarnation, and I have a review for it
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:03 pm 
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Does anyone have a suggestion for something that is similar to Spice & Wolf?

The only show I'm familiar with that's remotely similar plot-wise is MaoYu, which is basically a slightly-less-good version of Spice and Wolf where you replace "middle-ages economics" with "high-fantasy middle-ages politics" and add in a bit more fanservice.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:54 pm 
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I haven't watched it myself, but C: The Money of Soul and Possibility Control seems to be a modern fantasy take on the stock market. It also features a magical red head. I think MaoYu, C: The Money of Soul and Possibility Control and Spice & Wolf were all written by the same person actually.

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Similar in either way (feel vs topic) would interest me. Doesn't have to be both at the same time. :)

Thanks for the suggestions! I will look into all of those!


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TPmanW wrote:
It also features a magical red head. I think MaoYu, C: The Money of Soul and Possibility Control and Spice & Wolf were all written by the same person actually.

A quick Wikipedia check reveals the opposite to be true: none of these three series share an author, though it's worth noting that Spice & Wolf and MaoYu were originally light novels, while C was an anime first. I didn't check if the anime adaptations shared directors or anything.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:19 pm 
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I thought there was an author out there with a very specific set of preferences. It's a weirdly specific combination to show up 3 times. Magical redhead love interest assists protagonist with economic concerns. Is that a trope now?

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C only really shares superficial elements with the other two. It's much more of a dramatical show with some social commentary, it doesn't have the same atmosphere.

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So I watched "In Search of the Lost Future".

Civ 4, via Leonard Nemoy wrote:
"If you chase two rabbits, you will lose them both."
-Native American saying

It's neither the worst high school slice of life nor the worst time loop/leap/travel story, and in fact it does some things really well, but man is it flawed at times. Like, there are elements it almost does TOO well because it goes on to sacrifice them later and the replacement is not as well done. High note is getting an episode that details and thereafter cuts to the future timeline from which the traveler was sent, which doesn't just disappear when the past changes (Since the show uses "Many Worlds" time travel rather than, say, the World Lines of Steins;Gate) and has IMO the better payoff. Low note is the timeline where the technical events work out; to which, quote about hunting rabbits, above. Can't hate it, but wouldn't recommend it.

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I didn't think until now to say so, and here is probably the closest place to talk about it, but a month or two ago I read A Silent Voice. I teared up. A lot. I liked it.

I also just reread Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer. I cried again. A lot. I do so love that one.

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So I finished "Children of the Whales" today.

Such good world-building.
Such terrible pacing and character development.

I'm normally of the opinion that "Show, don't tell" is an over-taught maxim in writing, and that especially when it comes to descriptive passages (not applicable in a visual medium) or details of a setting that is unlike the Earth we are familiar with, there are times when you have to tell, and provide exposition, so that your readers/viewers aren't lost. Being excessively afraid of exposition as some writers are would, especially in fantasy, miss out on my favorite parts of certain books, like Eyes of the Dragon, The Tombs of Atuan, or The Silmarilion -- all of which I greatly enjoyed despite, or perhaps because of masses of telling (especially about mechanical or anthropological details).

But Children of the Whales highlights where "Show, don't tell" is most important -- Characters. We are told that the main character, Chakuro, is always writing like it's a compulsion, and that he gets called "The destroyer" because his telekinesis is really strong but he's clumsy with it. Over all twelve episodes, we see him writing stuff in a scenario NOT relevant to his job as record-keeper twice, and see him do a TK-screw-up exactly once. None of that seems to justify his reputations, and his role in the story doesn't do anything with his writing mania or strong but unskilled powers, he just sort of hangs out on the fringes of scenes, looking sad, and occassionally calling out (or screaming, as is appropiate) the female lead's name. Another character, Suou, is called out as constantly working to find a cure for the fact that the telekinetic subset of the population has short lives, but we never really see him mixing medicines or doing research; maybe a little in the background, but nothing that justifies how often that 'fact' is brought up. The character Ouni is the ringleader of a group that are such troublemakers that they've been spending most of their lives in prison, but despite his reputation as a rule-breaker we never actually see him break any rules or hear what crimes he gets penned up for -- he's more sullen and combative than other characters but he never does anything criminal. Lykos, the female lead, is supposed to be experiencing emotions for the first time, and allegedly she's become a real person over the course of the show but while she does get a couple crying scenes and a little emoting in her voice to back it up, I can't name a single actual trait to her character except that she seems to like Chakuro. Sort of. Maybe. Her affect is flat enough that it's hard to tell if there's really been any progress. A couple of the side characters (Sammi, Gishnu) are better about having their personalities be, well, personalities that we get to see rather. In essence, the vast majority of character attributes in the entire show are (tvtropes link) Informed Attributes. It's grating enough when a character or two have an important trait or two that rely on that. In Children of the Whales, it's most of the characters, and most of their attributes.

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