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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:28 pm 
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Sad to hear Gridman isn't so hot -- I've been a pretty big fan of Trigger so I was hoping it would pay off. I'll probably still take a look myself.

So, I'm 11/24 on Shangri-la and... it reeks of amateur writer. I don't want to say you can't meld together all the themes the show wants to mix, because you could, it would just take a TON of skill and care. And it would be way easier and usually better to... not. Up until this episode Karin and her cyberpunk hacking/market manipulation were my favorite part of the show, but I was already thinking "Maybe the writer should have let her drop" because it didn't really connect with the "AVALANCHE versus Shin-ra" style rebellion plot nor with the magic powers and prophecy plot. The latter (Mikuni's plot and... weird bodysnatching ghost) didn't fit with the rest of the setting, but it also got the most time devoted to it so while I would have liked that to drop early, it's clear that wasn't where things were going.

Now? First of all, the show uses symbolism like a high-schooler who just learned what that is, AND Karin's side of the story, which made sense even if it wasn't really germane to the rest, has now been invaded by the supernatural BS that doesn't make any sense at all... without actually tying her into that side of the plot -- there's still no GOOD connection.

With other complex, twisted shows like Occultic;Nine, Mekakucity Actors, or Noein I might not know what was going on... but the writing in those shows (yes, even Occultic) was good enough that I was interested in the present and wanted to see how they tied things together. With Shangri-la I'm wondering if things will tie together and suspecting/fearing the answer is "no" or at least "not in any satisfying or coherent manner"

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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:47 am 
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I wasn't as enamored with Gridman as some youtubers I've listened to. That said, the story does shift around a bit. It starts as a kind of classic monster-of-the-week show with comedic vibes, but there are some very clearly established mysteries that start to take the foreground before the show, while still kind of doing the same thing, revolves around something pretty different.

In other news I watched all of Katekyou Hitman Reborn and it was atricous, all 203 episodes of it.

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Anime Crimes Division isn't anime, but it's about anime and pretty amusing.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:47 pm 
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Ended up dropping Maou-sama Retry. The animation is like paper figures waved around on popsicle sticks, it got seriously distracting. I would recommend reading the manga though, it's decent.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:51 am 
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Finished Kaguya-sama: Love is War. It was sweet and surprisingly heartfelt.

Finished Shangri-la. It was crap. Like, seriously, I thought the Outside Context climax in Darling in the Franxx was bad, but at least there the writers KNEW they were bringing in this crud out of left field. Shangri-la's ending goes about like that except its even more random and incompetent. By far. Like, it's seriously night and day. The aliens showing up in DitF is sane, normal, and well-established compared to Shangri-la's climax. At least when the Aliens show up there you have almost a quarter of the show left to explore them (though I still wish it had gone a different way). Shangri-la? I think they were still pulling new brands of complete nonsense into the last ten minutes, though for a while before that nothing seems to be predicated on what came before or have any bearing on what comes after. And in DitF at least a good portion of the road there had fun characters and good action. Shangri-la has weaksauce intrigue, maybe one or two OK characters out of a massive ensemble cast of mostly lame and sometimes annoying characters, and is really just insultingly poorly written.

Started Eureka Seven. Looks alright so far. Some bog-standard stuff, but still fun.

Probably going to be starting the Quintessential Quintuplets. Don't know what to expect.

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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:30 am 
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Fate/Zero - Some cool and/or funny moments, but it is very much a dark story with a mostly tragic end


How is this bad though?

I think that the ending was actually perfect for the series.
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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:12 pm 
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Fate/Zero - Some cool and/or funny moments, but it is very much a dark story with a mostly tragic end


How is this bad though?

I think that the ending was actually perfect for the series.
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Not saying it's bad, just that it's particularly dark. For some people, that's a selling point. For others, it's a useful to know what they are getting into.
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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:31 pm 
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Well, killing that one dude who surrendered was clearly wrong, but that felt rather out of character.

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 Post subject: Re: Anime
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Eureka 7 going strong. Today was a recap episode, but at least it provided a little new info.

Finished Quintessential Quintuplets. It was alright. There were some awkward bits and the production values weren't always the greatest, but on the whole it had more merits than demerits.

Gonna be starting Chaos;Head. It's a semicolon so I know there's going to be a lot to go through but at least it should be entertaining.

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 Post subject: Re: Anime
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Chaos;Head is probably one of the less appreciated semicolon shows (although in fairness you could probably say that about all of them except Steins;Gate). It's likely one of the more confusing entries, and I imagine a lot of people are turned off by the main character, but I personally adore him.
I imagine it would be considered the worst entry of the franchise if Chaos;Child didn't exist, and even then it still might. I think it's my second favorite after Occultic;Nine though. I never really cared much for Steins;Gate. That said, I like it more than Robotics;Notes.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:15 pm 
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Mown wrote:
Chaos;Head is probably one of the less appreciated semicolon shows (although in fairness you could probably say that about all of them except Steins;Gate). It's likely one of the more confusing entries, and I imagine a lot of people are turned off by the main character, but I personally adore him.
I imagine it would be considered the worst entry of the franchise if Chaos;Child didn't exist, and even then it still might. I think it's my second favorite after Occultic;Nine though. I never really cared much for Steins;Gate. That said, I like it more than Robotics;Notes.

OK, I'm not totally done with it yet but... I'm enjoying the heck out of it and haven't found it all that confusing. So the universe works on Planescape rules -- consensus reality, if the right person believes something hard enough it's real. OK, that's not the 'scientific' explanation given so there are some meaningful differences in how things operate, but I was prepared enough for the setting that I was kind of predicting the twist I just got (end of Episode 9). Granted, I thought it was going to be about Rimi, but it was still in my canon of things that would make sense given the universe and established rules.

I'm actually enjoying it a heck of a lot -- more than I did Occultic;Nine (which IMO was hampered by some serious pacing issues, though it had some good strong points.), though probably not as much as I did Steins;Gate (which I really got into). If this is the "Weak" end of the semicolon series, I'm overall impressed. Of course I haven't watched Robotics;Notes or (of course) Chaos;Child so we'll see if I have a big delta from your opinion or public consensus on either of those.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:29 am 
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I looked at MAL out of curiosity
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Steins;Gate: 9.12
Steins;Gate 0: 8.56
Robotics;Notes: 7.39
Occultic;Nine: 7.02
Chaos;Child: 6.51
Chaos;Head: 6.17

R;N scores a bit above expectations, but otherwise I'm not too surprised. I guess it's a very inoffensive show. I think Chaos;Child would probably have a worse rating if it wasn't a sequel to Chaos;Head

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Fate/Zero - Some cool and/or funny moments, but it is very much a dark story with a mostly tragic end


How is this bad though?

I think that the ending was actually perfect for the series.
Spoiler

Not saying it's bad, just that it's particularly dark. For some people, that's a selling point. For others, it's a useful to know what they are getting into.
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It's not so much that darkness is a selling point for me, as it is that I don't really mind it. Whether things end happily or unhappily doesn't really affect my enjoyment. I think it's a great entry point though (it was mine years ago when I first watched it): it's self-contained, it has a cast full of interesting and engaging characters that grab your attention even if you don't know or care about the Fate franchise, and it brings you up to speed on everything you need to know while introducing them, so you don't have to sit through an infodump before you get to the interesting part.

It also avoids a lot of the aspects of Fate that are a bit, uh, off-putting to people who aren't its target audience, like extensive fanservice, or Emiya Shirou.

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Well, killing that one dude who surrendered was clearly wrong, but that felt rather out of character.


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Just finished Death Parade, I was quite fond of it. It sets up an interesting world, the characters are fun, and its central theme felt both interesting and well-executed to me, especially the climax. Plus, great music!

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