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 Post subject: [EDH] Chandra
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:33 am 
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This idea has been on my backburner for quite some time, but now I feel like trying to flesh it out.

Commander:
Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh//Chandra, Roaring Flame

Chandra:
1 x Chandra, Pyromaster
1 x Chandra, the Firebrand
1 x Chandra, Torch of Defiance

1 x Chandra Nalaar Japanese JvC version

1 x Chandra Ablaze
1 x Chandra, Flamecaller
1 x Chandra, Pyrogenius

Named Spells:
1 x Chandra's Pyrohelix
1 x Oath of Chandra

1 x Chandra's Phoenix
1 x Chandra's Spitfire

1 x Chandra's Outrage
1 x Chandra's Revolution

1 x Chandra's Fury
1 x Chandra's Ignition

Theme Spells:
1 x Fiery Impulse
1 x Seal of Fire JvC Duel Deck version

1 x Cathartic Reunion
1 x Incendiary Flow
1 x Incinerate JvC Duel Deck version
1 x Young Pyromancer

1 x Act on Impulse
1 x Collective Defiance
1 x Devour in Flames
1 x Exquisite Firecraft
1 x Flames of the Firebrand
1 x Hungry Flames
1 x Renegade Firebrand

1 x Flame Lash
1 x Furious Reprisal

1 x Liberating Combustion
1 x Pyromancer's Gauntlet
1 x Pyromancer's Goggles

1 x Inferno Jet

1 x Spreading Flames

1 x By Force
1 x Ravaging Blaze

1 x Fall of the Titans


Other Lore Spells:


Other Synergistic Spells:


Other Burn Spells:


Anti-Chandra:


Other:


That's everything I could find that I can think of right now. Please feel free to mention anything you think I may have missed. :)


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 Post subject: Re: [EDH] Chandra
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:12 am 
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Time to break these ideas (and plenty more) down into the four crucial categories to see what I need to supplement.

cardflow


mana ramp


spot removal


board wipes



Other thoughts
1 x Uba Mask


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 Post subject: Re: [EDH] Chandra
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:44 pm 
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I know I should REALLY wait until Dominaria is officially fully spoiled in order to get more Jaya awesomeness, but I want to keep taking steps forward so here's a pass at the four categories pointing out my favorites

cardflow


mana ramp


spot removal


board wipes


Others


There is more to be added to others, but I feel like I cut a lot in the process.
Edit: Added the stuff to "others" that I had started to go through last time.


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 Post subject: Re: [EDH] Chandra
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:50 pm 
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Cutting down further. I'd like to focus as much on strictly Chandra stuff as possible and I really need to not get sidetracked from what this deck is trying to do no matter how cool some of these other cards are (though usefulness may get some off-theme stuff in). I'm gonna let the lands slide a little though because mono red in EDH needs to not hamper itself too much.

Spot removal needs to be culled though because Chandra just has too many burn spells.

cardflow


mana ramp


spot removal


board wipes


Others



In Deck format:

Commander: 1 Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh/Chandra, Roaring Flame

Creatures (can bock) (15)
1 x Abbot of Keral Keep
1 x Heart of Kiran
1 x Young Pyromancer

1 x Chandra's Phoenix
1 x Chandra's Spitfire
1 x Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
1 x Pia Nalaar
1 x Regathan Firecat
1 x Renegade Firebrand

1 x Obsidian Fireheart
1 x Pia and Kiran Nalaar

1 x Embermaw Hellion
1 x Fire Servant

1 x Angrath's Marauders

1 x Magmatic Force

Non-Creatures (57)
1 x Fiery Impulse
1 x Quest for Pure Flame
1 x Seal of Fire

1 x Cathartic Reunion
1 x Expedition Map
1 x Incendiary Flow
1 x Incinerate
1 x Isochron Scepter
1 x Fire Diamond
1 x Oath of Chandra
1 x Ruby Medallion
1 x Smuggler's Copter

1 x Act on Impulse
1 x Collective Defiance
1 x Exquisite Firecraft
1 x Extraplanar Lens
1 x Flames of the Firebrand
1 x Reiterate
1 x Repercussion
1 x Rings of Brighthearth
1 x Sulfuric Vortex
1 x Volt Charge

1 x Chain Reaction
1 x Chandra, Pyromaster
1 x Chandra, Torch of Defiance
1 x Chandra's Outrage
1 x Craterize
1 x Fateful Showdown
1 x Flame Lash
1 x Furnace of Rath
1 x Koth of the Hammer
1 x Leyline of Punishment
1 x Primal Amulet
1 x Pyrohemia
1 x Pyromancer's Assault
1 x Pyromancer's Swath
1 x The Chain Veil
1 x Wild Ricochet

1 x Aggravated Assault
1 x Chandra Nalaar
1 x Chandra's Ignition
1 x Dictate of the Twin Gods
1 x Liberating Combustion
1 x Mana Geyser
1 x Pyromancer's Gauntlet
1 x Pyromancer's Goggles
1 x Reforge the Soul

1 x Chandra Ablaze
1 x Chandra, Flamecaller
1 x Chandra, Pyrogenius
1 x Sunbird's Invocation

1 x Inferno
1 x Volcanic Vision

1 x Lava Burst
1 x Ravaging Blaze

1 x Fall of the Titans
1 x Release the Gremlins


Land (38):
1 x Forgotten Cave
1 x Myriad Landscape
1 x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
1 x Temple of the False God
1 x Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
1 x Arcane Lighthouse
1 x Flamekin Village
1 x Hanweir Battlements
1 x Hall of the Bandit Lord
29 x Mountain



Total count: 110 cards

It's actually not too terribly oversized at the moment and there are definitely some easy cuts from this point (Regathan Firecat and Isochron Scepter are the first two that spring to mind). Does anybody have any ideas for cards that might deter opponents from attacking my Planeswalkers? I suspect I'm still weak in that area. I'm not sold on what I've come up with:
deterrents?


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 Post subject: Re: [EDH] Chandra
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:59 pm 
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My buddy has a Jace tribal deck. He allows anything with Jace in the art, name, flavor text. Luckily they printed Jace Islands in Ixalan...

(PS The deck is terrible)

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 Post subject: Re: [EDH] Chandra
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:29 am 
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Cool!

I intend to bend my "Chandraness" requirement to make my deck a little more playable. That is to say: play some non-chandra themed cards to make the Chandra themed cards that I do have play better.
That said, this will probably be one of my lower powered decks, which is actually kind of what I'm aiming for right now. I can swing with the big boys in my playgroup, but I want to see how low I can go without being utterly useless so that I have something to play with some of our less powerful group members.

Looking at my current list I actually have a couple deterrents already, just not many.
Young Pyromancer
Pyrohemia<- though this admittedly may be more of a threat than a deterrent
Heart of Kiran
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
Seal of Fire

And among cards that I had originally dismissed, if I'm looking at them from the deterrent angle I may want to reconsider them.
Sphinx-Bone Wand <- may also be more threat than deterrent, but it feels wrong to leave this out of in instant/sorcery based deck
Vance's Blasting Cannons/Spitfire Bastion

More Possible Deterrents, plus the ones I like from my previous post


Other Rambling Thoughts


OK I think that's it for now


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 Post subject: Re: [EDH] Chandra
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:26 pm 
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Alright Dominaria is up on Gatherer. Time to continue the build!!
Prep Steps for this iteration

Chandra, Iteration 2 (even more oversized):

Commander: 1 Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh//Chandra, Roaring Flame

Creatures (can block) (26)
1 x Dragonmaster Outcast
1 x Soul-Scar Mage

1 x Abbot of Keral Keep
1 x Harsh Mentor
1 x Heart of Kiran
1 x Young Pyromancer

1 x Chandra's Phoenix
1 x Chandra's Spitfire
1 x Crater Elemental
1 x Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
1 x Nuisance Engine
1 x Pia Nalaar
1 x Renegade Firebrand

1 x Obsidian Fireheart
1 x Pia and Kiran Nalaar
1 x Rekindling Phoenix

1 x Embermaw Hellion
1 x Fire Servant
1 x Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs
1 x Neheb, the Eternal
1 x Shard Phoenix

1 x Charmbreaker Devils
1 x Etali, Primal Storm

1 x Angrath's Marauders
1 x Skyline Despot

1 x Magmatic Force

Non-Creatures (72)
1 x Fiery Impulse
1 x Quest for Pure Flame
1 x Seal of Fire

1 x Cathartic Reunion
1 x Expedition Map
1 x Fire Diamond
1 x Incendiary Flow
1 x Incinerate
1 x Mizzium Mortars
1 x Oath of Chandra
1 x Ruby Medallion
1 x Smuggler's Copter

1 x Act on Impulse
1 x Arcbond
1 x Collective Defiance
1 x Exquisite Firecraft
1 x Extraplanar Lens
1 x Fight with Fire
1 x Flames of the Firebrand
1 x Glacial Crevasses
1 x Reiterate
1 x Repercussion
1 x Rings of Brighthearth
1 x Sulfuric Vortex
1 x Sunstone
1 x Thaumatic Compass//Spires of Orazca
1 x Volt Charge

1 x Chain Reaction
1 x Chandra, Pyromaster
1 x Chandra, Torch of Defiance
1 x Chandra's Outrage
1 x Craterize
1 x Flame Lash
1 x Furnace of Rath
1 x Koth of the Hammer
1 x Leyline of Punishment
1 x Primal Amulet//Primal Wellspring
1 x Pyrohemia
1 x Pyromancer's Swath
1 x The Chain Veil
1 x Vance's Blasting Cannons//Spitfire Bastion
1 x Wild Ricochet

1 x Aggravated Assault
1 x Chandra Nalaar
1 x Chandra's Ignition
1 x Chandra's Outburst
1 x Dictate of the Twin Gods
1 x Jaya Ballard
1 x Liberating Combustion
1 x Mana Geyser
1 x Mirari
1 x Pyromancer's Gauntlet
1 x Pyromancer's Goggles
1 x Reforge the Soul

1 x Caged Sun
1 x Chandra Ablaze
1 x Chandra, Bold Pyromancer
1 x Chandra, Flamecaller
1 x Chandra, Pyrogenius
1 x Sunbird's Invocation

1 x Inferno
1 x Sphinx-Bone Wand
1 x Star of Extinction
1 x Volcanic Vision

1 x Blasphemous Act

1 x Comet Storm
1 x Jaya's Immolating Inferno
1 x Lava Burst
1 x Ravaging Blaze
1 x Starstorm

1 x Fall of the Titans
1 x Release the Gremlins

Land (38):
1 x Forgotten Cave
1 x Myriad Landscape
1 x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
1 x Temple of the False God
1 x Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
1 x Arcane Lighthouse
1 x Flamekin Village
1 x Hanweir Battlements
1 x Hall of the Bandit Lord
29 x Snow-Covered Mountain


Total count: 147 cards

Hm...I added 37 cards.
Whoops.
Now comes the fun part. Cutting. XD

I'll crunch the number distributions later. That'll probably help.


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 Post subject: Re: [EDH] Chandra
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:03 pm 
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Stats for above post:

Creatures/NonCreatures/Total
1-2/3/5
2-4/9/13
3-7/15/22
4-3/16/19<-Blasphemous Act Here
5-5/12/17
6-2/6/8
7-2/4/6
8-1/0/1
x-0/6/6
xx-0/1/1

Average (ignoring X and XX)=3.92/3.91/3.91

That's a little high, but not too bad. Tells me that while I should focus on cutting higher cost cards I can cut some smaller stuff too.
Also should cut some Xs.

Card Category Distribution

Good heavens the spot removal is out of control.

Out: 26


26 down, 21 to go.

Blech, only cut 8 spot removal. Better than nothing I suppose.

New Distribution


Chandra, Iteration 3

Commander: 1 Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh//Chandra, Roaring Flame

Creatures (can block) (19)
1 x Dragonmaster Outcast
1 x Soul-Scar Mage

1 x Abbot of Keral Keep
1 x Heart of Kiran
1 x Young Pyromancer

1 x Chandra's Phoenix
1 x Crater Elemental
1 x Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

1 x Obsidian Fireheart
1 x Pia and Kiran Nalaar
1 x Rekindling Phoenix

1 x Embermaw Hellion
1 x Fire Servant
1 x Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs
1 x Neheb, the Eternal

1 x Charmbreaker Devils

1 x Angrath's Marauders
1 x Skyline Despot

1 x Magmatic Force

Non-Creatures (53)
1 x Fiery Impulse
1 x Quest for Pure Flame
1 x Seal of Fire

1 x Cathartic Reunion
1 x Expedition Map
1 x Fire Diamond
1 x Incendiary Flow
1 x Incinerate
1 x Mizzium Mortars
1 x Ruby Medallion

1 x Exquisite Firecraft
1 x Extraplanar Lens
1 x Fight with Fire
1 x Glacial Crevasses
1 x Reiterate
1 x Rings of Brighthearth
1 x Sulfuric Vortex
1 x Thaumatic Compass//Spires of Orazca
1 x Volt Charge

1 x Chain Reaction
1 x Chandra, Pyromaster
1 x Chandra, Torch of Defiance
1 x Chandra's Outrage
1 x Craterize
1 x Furnace of Rath
1 x Koth of the Hammer
1 x Leyline of Punishment
1 x Primal Amulet//Primal Wellspring
1 x Pyrohemia
1 x The Chain Veil
1 x Vance's Blasting Cannons//Spitfire Bastion

1 x Chandra Nalaar
1 x Chandra's Ignition
1 x Chandra's Outburst
1 x Dictate of the Twin Gods
1 x Jaya Ballard
1 x Liberating Combustion
1 x Mana Geyser
1 x Mirari
1 x Pyromancer's Gauntlet
1 x Pyromancer's Goggles

1 x Caged Sun
1 x Chandra Ablaze
1 x Chandra, Bold Pyromancer
1 x Chandra, Flamecaller
1 x Chandra, Pyrogenius
1 x Sunbird's Invocation

1 x Inferno
1 x Volcanic Vision

1 x Blasphemous Act

1 x Comet Storm
1 x Jaya's Immolating Inferno

1 x Release the Gremlins

Land (38):
1 x Forgotten Cave
1 x Myriad Landscape
1 x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
1 x Temple of the False God
1 x Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
1 x Arcane Lighthouse
1 x Flamekin Village
1 x Hanweir Battlements
1 x Hall of the Bandit Lord
29 x Snow-Covered Mountain


Total count: 111

GOOD NEWS!!
I CAN'T COUNT!
As in, I added 10 cards to my count in the previous build when I shouldn't have. There were "only" 137 cards in that iteration.

Ironically enough, in my first iteration I forgot to count the Commander herself so I'm actually exactly back where I started in the first iteration in terms of card count.

Let's look at the stats now.

Creatures/NonCreatures/Total
1-2/3/5
2-3/7/10
3-3/9/12
4-3/13/16<-Blasphemous Act Here
5-4/10/14
6-1/6/7
7-2/2/4
8-1/0/1
x-0/2/2
xx-0/1/1

Average (ignoring X and XX)=4.05/3.92/3.96

OK, so the curve went up a hair, not as terribly as I suspected though so I'm happy.
Also, those X spells aren't normally cast for less than 4 or 5 so I figure I'm actually doing even a little better than shown here compared to the previous iteration.

Still hope to focus on higher casting cost cards for the last 11 cuts.

As always, any input is greatly appreciated! :D


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 Post subject: Re: [EDH] Chandra
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:25 am 
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Out
1 x Comet Storm
1 x Mirari
1 x Liberating Combustion
1 x Chandra's Outburst
1 x Leyline of Punishment
1 x Craterize
1 x Reiterate
1 x Ruby Medallion
1 x Cathartic Reunion
1 x Quest for Pure Flame
1 x Abbot of Keral Keep
1 x snow-covered mountain

In
1 x Ghost Quarter


I ALMOST managed to keep my cuts to the non-creatures. But alas, I like my spells too much. XD
It was abbot vs Inferno in the end, and I like my Jaya flavor text burn spells!!

Chandra, Iteration 4 (first legal sized one!!)

Commander (1)
Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh//Chandra, Roaring Flame

Creatures (can block) (18)
1 x Dragonmaster Outcast
1 x Soul-Scar Mage

1 x Heart of Kiran
1 x Young Pyromancer

1 x Chandra's Phoenix
1 x Crater Elemental
1 x Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

1 x Obsidian Fireheart
1 x Pia and Kiran Nalaar
1 x Rekindling Phoenix

1 x Embermaw Hellion
1 x Fire Servant
1 x Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs
1 x Neheb, the Eternal

1 x Charmbreaker Devils

1 x Angrath's Marauders
1 x Skyline Despot

1 x Magmatic Force

Non-Creatures (43)
1 x Fiery Impulse
1 x Seal of Fire

1 x Expedition Map
1 x Fire Diamond
1 x Incendiary Flow
1 x Incinerate
1 x Mizzium Mortars

1 x Exquisite Firecraft
1 x Extraplanar Lens
1 x Fight with Fire
1 x Glacial Crevasses
1 x Rings of Brighthearth
1 x Sulfuric Vortex
1 x Thaumatic Compass//Spires of Orazca
1 x Volt Charge

1 x Chain Reaction
1 x Chandra, Pyromaster
1 x Chandra, Torch of Defiance
1 x Chandra's Outrage
1 x Furnace of Rath
1 x Koth of the Hammer
1 x Primal Amulet//Primal Wellspring
1 x Pyrohemia
1 x The Chain Veil
1 x Vance's Blasting Cannons//Spitfire Bastion

1 x Chandra Nalaar
1 x Chandra's Ignition
1 x Dictate of the Twin Gods
1 x Jaya Ballard
1 x Mana Geyser
1 x Pyromancer's Gauntlet
1 x Pyromancer's Goggles

1 x Caged Sun
1 x Chandra Ablaze
1 x Chandra, Bold Pyromancer
1 x Chandra, Flamecaller
1 x Chandra, Pyrogenius
1 x Sunbird's Invocation

1 x Inferno
1 x Volcanic Vision

1 x Blasphemous Act

1 x Jaya's Immolating Inferno

1 x Release the Gremlins

Land (38):
1 x Forgotten Cave
1 x Myriad Landscape
1 x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
1 x Temple of the False God
1 x Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
1 x Arcane Lighthouse
1 x Flamekin Village
1 x Hanweir Battlements
1 x Hall of the Bandit Lord
1 x Ghost Quarter
28 x Snow-Covered Mountain


Stats to come later.


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 Post subject: Re: [EDH] Chandra
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:32 pm 
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Creatures/Non-Creatures/Total
1-2/2/4
2-2/5/7
3-3/9/12 <-Release the Gremlins here
4-3/11/14 <-Blasphemous Act here
5-4/7/11
6-1/7/8 <-Jaya's Immolating Inferno here
7-2/2/4
8-1/0/1

Average:4.167/4.047/4.082

That uh...doesn't look so good.
Let's check the categories:

Spot (25):

Wipe (9):

Cardflow (10):

Ramp (17):

So the only category I have to be wary about cutting from is cardflow as that is currently at the minimum recommended level. Everything esle is fair game, but before I actually make any changes I'd like to get some games in with this version. Of course my cuts should come from the higher end of the casting cost spectrum whenever possible to bring the curve down, but again, after playtesting.

Edit: GAHH!! I left out Chandra, the Firebrand!
Whoopsie. XD
I guess I'll have to figure out something to cut for her. Le-sigh.
I suppose that Inferno that was on the cusp before could come out.


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 Post subject: Re: [EDH] Chandra
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 1:01 am 
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Got a couple reps in with the deck last night and I must say, overall I'm quite pleased with it, but I think it wants more cardflow and maybe a few more threats as permanents that also serve as deterrents.

I went hunting and found these awesome cards that I want to put in (some of them you may recognize from earlier posts):
In:
Oracle's Vault cardflow
Outpost Siege cardflow
Etali, Primal Storm threat and cardflow or deterrent
Sensei's Divining Top cardflow that synergizes with my other cardflow (by that I mean I can stack what goes under my Vance's Blasting Cannons, what goes under my Oracle's Vault, and what gets drawn in to my hand this turn. I can even put the top on top so that it goes under the blasting cannons as a cheap spell I can cast most any turn and possibly even help me flip the Cannons into the Spitfire Bastion)
Scroll Rack cardflow that synergizes with my other cardflow
Scrying Sheets cardflow for snow (i.e. my mana base)

Of course to add stuff we must also undergo the painful process of cuts:
Out:
Mizzium Mortars I have plenty of spot and wipes and this has no Chandra flavor keeping my attention, is also only sorcery speed which my Chandras cover plenty.
Dictate of the Twin Gods enabler, but doesn't do anything on its own and makes my walkers very fragile to opposing damage
Angrath's Marauders too expensive, they see it coming from a mile away
Fire Servant Painful, but I'm looking for room and this is another do nothing enabler that doesn't even block very well because it only has 3 toughness.
Rekindling Phoenix It's stupid resilient, but that's about it and it's defensive viability is severely diminished in multiplayer where it can only chump once each turn cycle. I can do better for my role
Hall of the Bandit Lord just wholly unnecessary. I don't have enough creatures that care.

I actually found five more cards that I like for the deck, but I need more reps to see what I can cut for them (or if I really need them at all):
Goblin Charbelcher deterrent and potential repeated removal, works extra good with Top and Rack
Rimescale Dragon deterrent, both proactively and reactively, can be pulled off of scrying sheets
Smoke absurd deterrent
Skred Not Chandra flavored, but instant speed, lots of damage, and VERY efficient.
Journeyer's Kite I know it's redundant with the front half of Thaumatic Compass, however that transform is mandatory and keeping the land search going has two VERY real benefits outside of just being really good at making sure you hit your land drops each turn: 1)It fetches mountains for Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle, and 2)It continuously feeds Glacial Crevasses.

As expected, Glacial Crevasses was an absolute rockstar. Almost makes me want to put Sunstone in there too. But only almost. They did make me sac multiple lands that game as we played "keep the Chandra from Ulting," and I don't really know that I want more effects that hamper my mana base.

Looking back on my mana base I just don't need any of the haste lands at all I think. Nominally they were for granting Chandra haste, but it's just so much mana to do all of casting Chandra, giving her haste, and casting another red spell to untap her so I can activate her ability and transform her the very turn she comes down. I'd much rather just drop her on curve, wait a turn cycle and then flip her. Much more mana efficient and much more time efficient too. As for my other creatures, they're primarily defense and honestly would usually rather be sitting back to defend a Chandra than crashing into the red zone. Additionally I want to go down Forgotten Cave as well. It is only marginally a cardflow card and it just stayed in to keep my cardflow count up, but even then it's not that great at that job, just flexible. Now that I'm adding 6 more very real cardflow engines I feel like this can become just another snow-covered mountain to make my mana base that much more consistent. Or at least that's what I was originally thinking.
Cutting off these nonbasics made me want to do another pass of all the nonbasic lands this deck could use to see if I missed any gems, and in my searching I stumbled upon 3 that I quite like:
Thawing Glaciers <-Keep fueling valakut, at instant speed even, or double up triggers with a regular land drop!
Kher Keep <-chump blockers to throw in front of opposing creatures trying to whack-a-Chandra
Thespian's Stage <-Worst case scenario it's a wastes or snow-covered mountain, best case scenario it's another Valakut (remember friends, Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle isn't legendary). And that's ignoring the possibility of my opponents' playing another busted land that I might want to copy. The floor on this is quite fine and the ceiling is absurd.


Chandra, Iteration 5

Commander (1)
Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh//Chandra, Roaring Flame

Creatures (can block) (16)
1 x Dragonmaster Outcast
1 x Soul-Scar Mage

1 x Heart of Kiran
1 x Young Pyromancer

1 x Chandra's Phoenix
1 x Crater Elemental
1 x Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

1 x Obsidian Fireheart
1 x Pia and Kiran Nalaar

1 x Embermaw Hellion
1 x Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs
1 x Neheb, the Eternal

1 x Charmbreaker Devils
1 x Etali, Primal Storm

1 x Skyline Despot

1 x Magmatic Force

Non-Creatures (45)
1 x Fiery Impulse
1 x Seal of Fire
1 x Sensei's Divining Top

1 x Expedition Map
1 x Fire Diamond
1 x Incendiary Flow
1 x Incinerate
1 x Scroll Rack

1 x Exquisite Firecraft
1 x Extraplanar Lens
1 x Fight with Fire
1 x Glacial Crevasses
1 x Rings of Brighthearth
1 x Sulfuric Vortex
1 x Thaumatic Compass//Spires of Orazca
1 x Volt Charge

1 x Chain Reaction
1 x Chandra, Pyromaster
1 x Chandra, the Firebrand
1 x Chandra, Torch of Defiance
1 x Chandra's Outrage
1 x Furnace of Rath
1 x Koth of the Hammer
1 x Primal Amulet//Primal Wellspring
1 x Oracle's Vault
1 x Outpost Siege
1 x Pyrohemia
1 x The Chain Veil
1 x Vance's Blasting Cannons//Spitfire Bastion

1 x Chandra Nalaar
1 x Chandra's Ignition
1 x Jaya Ballard
1 x Mana Geyser
1 x Pyromancer's Gauntlet
1 x Pyromancer's Goggles

1 x Caged Sun
1 x Chandra Ablaze
1 x Chandra, Bold Pyromancer
1 x Chandra, Flamecaller
1 x Chandra, Pyrogenius
1 x Sunbird's Invocation

1 x Volcanic Vision

1 x Blasphemous Act

1 x Jaya's Immolating Inferno

1 x Release the Gremlins

Land (38):
1 x Myriad Landscape
1 x Thawing Glaciers
1 x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
1 x Temple of the False God
1 x Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
1 x Arcane Lighthouse
1 x Kher Keep
1 x Thespian's Stage
1 x Scrying Sheets
1 x Ghost Quarter
28 x Snow-Covered Mountain


Creatures/Non-Creatures/Total
1-2/3/5
2-2/5/7
3-3/10/13 <-Release the Gremlins and Chandra, Roaring Flame here
4-2/14/16 <-Blasphemous Act here
5-3/6/9
6-2/7/9 <-Jaya's Immolating Inferno here
7-1/1/2
8-1/0/1

Average:4.063/3.870/3.919

Better. Still not great, but better.
Categories:

Spot (24):

Wipe (7):

Cardflow (15):

Ramp (17):

Cardflow is now shored up, so hopefully I can keep the gas flowing. :)

As always, any input is always appreciated. I don't think I'll be able to test this deck again this upcoming weekend because I plan to be at GPDC pestering Zack Stella for a Gishath playmat. =p I mean, I suppose it's possible I get some commander games in at the GP, but it's not high on my priority list of things to do there.


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 Post subject: Re: [EDH] Chandra
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:31 am 
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Deck is fantastic now and I love it!

So this happened this evening (about turn 7 or so I want to say):
picture of awesomeness


I didn't untap with this board state (Hour of Revelation happened), but it was still hilarious to have it even happen in the first place.
Chandra, Pyrogenius's +2 with Neheb, the Eternal out is ridiculous ramp.


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