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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:45 am 
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Battlecast (Whenever this creature attacks or blocks you may cast a spell as though it had flash.)

Yeah, i was so hyperfocused on hitting all the check marks, that i didn't accept that this doesn't work unless it's static. this is a really clean way of doing it. The only problem is that i don't think an evergreen should reference another keyword. I feel like "at instant speed" is a better way to say it, and expect that wording change to be made official in the coming years.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:01 pm 
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Worried that reminder text might confuse people into thinking that this will deal damage to defending player even if it dies before blocks are assigned.

It does do that.


Oh. worried that people might be confused the other way then.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:55 am 
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I looked at all the cards in the game (there are only 26 of them) and came across Noggle Bandit.

Stealth (This creature can't be blocked except by creatures with defender.)

It's definitely evasion, but it feels right.

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Failing that, here's a dumb idea:

Substitute (If this creature would attack, instead it creates a token copy of itself tapped and attacking. It still has to tap.)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:28 pm 
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Failing that, here's a dumb idea:

Substitute (If this creature would attack, instead it creates a token copy of itself tapped and attacking. It still has to tap.)


Think this should be:

Phantomstrike (Instead of attacking, tap this creature, then create a token copy of it tapped and attacking. Sacrifice the token at the end of combat.)

Note, this is REALLY good. Too strong for an evergreen keyword I think, but a neat idea all the same.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:20 pm 
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OK if I steal Battlecast (Whenever this creature attacks or blocks you may cast a spell as though it had flash.)? I would like to steal it for a set I'm working on.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:29 pm 
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Ive been thinking through some ideas like Gustcloak Runner or Wildwood Geist

Gaea's Protector also an option but not sure if you want it en masse.


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I looked at all the cards in the game (there are only 26 of them) and came across Noggle Bandit.

Stealth (This creature can't be blocked except by creatures with defender.)

It's definitely evasion, but it feels right.

Anything that gives defender a boost gets a thumbs-up from me. This made more sense when defender equaled wall, but I still like it.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:30 am 
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OK if I steal Battlecast (Whenever this creature attacks or blocks you may cast a spell as though it had flash.)? I would like to steal it for a set I'm working on.

Absolutely! I would be honored.

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Ive been thinking through some ideas like Gustcloak Runner or Wildwood Geist

Gaea's Protector also an option but not sure if you want it en masse.

"Let's fine the blue/red evergeen creature keyword"

*links three green/white cards*

I looked at all the cards in the game (there are only 26 of them) and came across Noggle Bandit.

Stealth (This creature can't be blocked except by creatures with defender.)

It's definitely evasion, but it feels right.

Anything that gives defender a boost gets a thumbs-up from me. This made more sense when defender equaled wall, but I still like it.

omg yESSs i got a thUMBS UP from RUSH in THIS THREAD holy crap. i've been waiting for this moment for years. i can rest now

(completely serious btw)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:33 am 
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I like impulse best (self bias :/), but I think stealth also makes sense... though I'm not sure about the name (not sure red does stealth).

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:29 am 
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You could also call it Guile.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:43 am 
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At this point I think it's hard enough to find any new evergreen keyword even if we ignore rush's original rules and the color pie. I can always justify why the ability is in color later


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:58 am 
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You could also call it Guile.


Maybe trespassing?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:17 am 
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Dire Fleet Hoarder could be a good mechanic. Or Avenging Angel

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Extra life (when this creature dies, return it to the battlefield. At the beginning of your next turns end step or if it would leave the battlefield, exile it)


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:01 am 
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You could also call it Guile.

Not a bad option, if you want another evasion mechanic. I’m guessing they haven’t printed more of this because people don’t like playing Defender creatures in general. Would having this lead to having something like this?

Guardian (This creature can block creatures with guile.)

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:47 am 
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Pulse Tracker is a cool card. Blue doesn't usually get direct damage, but since it requires an attack then it's more like partial unblockability.


Wizard - :1::u:
Creature - Human Wizard
Magic (Whenever this creature attacks, it deals 1 damage to the player or planeswalker it's attacking.)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:13 am 
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Flopfoot wrote:
Pulse Tracker is a cool card. Blue doesn't usually get direct damage, but since it requires an attack then it's more like partial unblockability.


Wizard - :1::u:
Creature - Human Wizard
Magic (Whenever this creature attacks, it deals 1 damage to the player or planeswalker it's attacking.)
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But should we bleed a Black ability into Red/Blue? XD


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:42 am 
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One thing that red and blue do with creatures is shapeshifting (+1/-1, -1/+1). Obviously the normal means of doing so won't work as a keyword, but maybe something like this:

Flowstone Brute
Creature - Golem Warrior
Malleable (Whenever this attacks or blocks, distribute its power into toughness or toughness into power as you choose until end of turn.)
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Admittedly a triggered ability.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:36 am 
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This probably wouldn’t be simple enough for evergreen, but it amuses me.

Slizt-Clan Skulk
Creature - Goblin Rogue
Baffle (Whenever this creature attacks or blocks, defending player discards a card then draws a card.)
When the Gruul Clans raid, it’s always the Slizt that find the back doors.

2/1

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Flying
Whenever a creature you control with baffle attacks or blocks, surveil 1.
:t:: Create a 0/1 blue Eye creature token with flying and baffle.
It’s own eight eyes are never enough.
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Baffle (Whenever this creature attacks or blocks, defending player discards a card then draws a card.)

Am I to understand that when you block with it, you're the defending player? If so, maybe it should say "Whenever this creature attacks, defending player discards a card, then draws a card. Whenever it blocks, draw a card, then discard a card."

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It’s own eight eyes are never enough.

Its eight eyes, huh? Maybe it should be a Spider :madness:

Cool card. Combining it with a localized keyword like surveil really makes baffle come across as more potentially evergreen.

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Pulse Tracker is a cool card. Blue doesn't usually get direct damage, but since it requires an attack then it's more like partial unblockability.


Wizard - :1::u:
Creature - Human Wizard
Magic (Whenever this creature attacks, it deals 1 damage to the player or planeswalker it's attacking.)
1/3


But should we bleed a Black ability into Red/Blue? XD

Seriously Flopfoot, love you, (that paleolithic land destruction set you made is among my Top 3 all time favorite custom sets I've ever seen on these forums,) but we're trying to find the BLUE/RED creature keyword here, and you seem to be persistant in making suggestions of abilities from every color except those two!

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