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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:36 pm 
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Hello, everybody! Here's a new story featuring a brand new character to the M:EM. I hope you all enjoy!

I'd like to give a big thanks to Barinellos for his help with this story. I've been bouncing ideas about this character off him for a long time now, and he's been immensely helpful in narrowing down the various aspects of the character. He also wrote some lines that are here in the final cut, and contributed in other ways that you will probably notice throughout the story. So, thanks, Barinellos!

The Tale Carver


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:29 am 
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Well, naturally, you know where I fall in regards to this story, so, instead, I'll talk about the greater effects this has had!
Okay, I won't really get into it, but suffice to say that the certain character dynamics really kickstarted some thought processes to help me make some snappy connections in further filling out certain aspects of this setting. Probably wouldn't have happened without this lovely story.

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To deafened ears we ask, unseen / "Which is life and which the dream?"


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:08 pm 
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Well, naturally, you know where I fall in regards to this story, so, instead, I'll talk about the greater effects this has had!
Okay, I won't really get into it, but suffice to say that the certain character dynamics really kickstarted some thought processes to help me make some snappy connections in further filling out certain aspects of this setting. Probably wouldn't have happened without this lovely story.

Well, I'm glad it helped get something going! I'm always happy when people get something from my stuff.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:17 pm 
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I remember a talk of a new character in the works, and my Elphimas side lit up as it read the title of this story. I liked the linguistic touches (the linguistic distance between Aamir and his mother's names strikes me as odd, not because it's in any way unreasonable though) like the -ole suffix, later used for the ancient elementals, and everything about the tree flutes from their introduction to their role in Oleetaka's tale. This is a good entry piece for him, and explores his past in a powerful way, so I hope his next story will hold a glimpse of his future.

looked over the grizzly images he had carved.

I expected to read "grisly" there, but I didn't. WordReference says it can also mean "weeping", it that what is it supposed to mean?

Thank you for sharing!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:23 pm 
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I remember a talk of a new character in the works,

This is, indeed, one of the characters I was talking about when you asked about it in the Ask Raven thread. Here is the relevant exchange:

Are you planning to introduce new planeswalkers to the M:EM?

...There's one I've been working on for, I'm not even sure, two years? Maybe three, by now? It's just that every time I sit down to write the story, it just doesn't quite come together. Maybe this summer, I'll make a push for it.

It was two years, by the way, and Oleetaka went through a lot of changes over that time. The two things I knew about him from day one was that he was an archer (I love the archer trope, and I've been remiss in not making any archer characters in the M:EM) and that he would be a totem carver in the tradition of Native Americans in the Pacific Northwest. The rest I sort of discovered during the process, and in conversation with the good Barinellos.

and my Elphimas side lit up as it read the title of this story.

I thought about that a few times while working on this story. I can imagine a situation where Elphimas comes across one of Oleetaka's totems and attempts to piece the story together. Or maybe Elphimas uses their power to change the totem, perhaps changing the story? Could be interesting.

I liked the linguistic touches (the linguistic distance between Aamir and his mother's names strikes me as odd, not because it's in any way unreasonable though) like the -ole suffix, later used for the ancient elementals,

Barinellos can better address the issue of Aamir and Lady Kaguya's name (he's done a ton of great work with D'shan and Aamir's family) but I believe this has to do a lot with Aamir's father. From my understanding, the elves of D'shan have a heavy Japanese influence, but Aamir himself is only half-elven, and his father, as Emperor, would have had the right to name him anything he wanted.

As for the -ola, I was really happy with that, and I love the Olakuta. We have not, yet, truly gotten a sense of exactly what they are, but I suspect that, if we are to see another Oleetaka story at some point in the future, we may learn more about them in time.

and everything about the tree flutes from their introduction to their role in Oleetaka's tale.

Thanks! I'm a big fan of the tree flutes, myself. It didn't come up in the story, because I opted not to name the sections of the story as I was originally going to, but Oleetaka refers to the night of the attack as "The Night of the Stilled Wind."

This is a good entry piece for him, and explores his past in a powerful way, so I hope his next story will hold a glimpse of his future.

I don't have a solid plan for Oleetaka's next story, but I do have some thoughts as to where it will go, and if it does go that way, it will indeed be towards his future.

looked over the grizzly images he had carved.

I expected to read "grisly" there, but I didn't. WordReference says it can also mean "weeping", it that what is it supposed to mean?

Good catch. Apparently, I was thinking Grizzly Bears when I was typing that up. It should, in fact, be grisly. I'll make the change. Thank you!

Thank you for sharing!

Thanks for reading, and I'm glad you enjoyed it!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:44 am 
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in conversation with the good Barinellos.

Happy to help, as always!


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Barinellos can better address the issue of Aamir and Lady Kaguya's name (he's done a ton of great work with D'shan and Aamir's family) but I believe this has to do a lot with Aamir's father. From my understanding, the elves of D'shan have a heavy Japanese influence, but Aamir himself is only half-elven, and his father, as Emperor, would have had the right to name him anything he wanted.

Sorry it took me so long to come back around to this. Partly I didn't want to derail your thread too badly.
But yes, Aamir's father comes from a different cultural inspiration than his mother, so the Sultan tends to favor names more culturally reflective of his own background. For the most part at least...
the Vampire consort got to name her twins on her own. (Lizbet and Maria, for the record)

Also, thank you again, for the compliment.

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As for the -ola, I was really happy with that, and I love the Olakuta. We have not, yet, truly gotten a sense of exactly what they are, but I suspect that, if we are to see another Oleetaka story at some point in the future, we may learn more about them in time.

It was a nice consistency touch.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:03 pm 
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I keep forgetting about Aamir, but this is lovely. You've always had a knack for tragedy, but letting the one most affected explain it in his own words was amazing. I love that it breaks back to the framing story when it gets hard for him to continue, and I really like the way the tree whistles lead up to both his magic and the Stilled Wind.

Oddly enough, I've been kicking around a few ideas in similar space, pieces of which have already been written, so I hope you won't be too offended if they show up.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:56 am 
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I keep forgetting about Aamir, but this is lovely.

Yeah, Aamir's been stuck in this weird sort of limbo where he's been around forever, and is in the Archive as a canon character, but for one reason or another, the stars haven't aligned to get him a canon story. And while he is not in this one either, hopefully it helps set the stage for his eventual "debut," as it were.

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You've always had a knack for tragedy,

I can't imagine what you mean...

:paranoid:

Brentain wrote:
but letting the one most affected explain it in his own words was amazing. I love that it breaks back to the framing story when it gets hard for him to continue, and I really like the way the tree whistles lead up to both his magic and the Stilled Wind.

I'm glad that you mentioned this, and I'm glad that it worked. The decision to have sections of the story told in Oleetaka's first person POV came pretty late in the process, as I sat down to write. On one level, it was to get at the things you mention here. On a more pragmatic level, it was because this story is essentially just recap, and I wanted to bring some feeling to it. Thus the first person.

Brentain wrote:
Oddly enough, I've been kicking around a few ideas in similar space, pieces of which have already been written, so I hope you won't be too offended if they show up.

Of course not. I look forward to reading them!

And thanks for reading this!


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<Roy from "The I.T. Crowd">MY HEART HURTS.</Roy from "The I.T. Crowd">

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Well, I am woefully late to this particular story ( :blush: ), but late is still preferential to never, and I'm super glad to have finally read this. It's another typically wonderful piece from the estimable Raven, and I can definitely see the Barinellos touches as well. So thank you both so much for sharing!

There's a lot to like, here, but I'm particularly fond of the tree flutes. That's just a really wonderful image which manages to feel at once both novel and like something which *should* exist, and those are the sorts of things I always love to discover in stories. And the kind of sound I can imagine them making is a wonderful sensory cue which just adds atmosphere to the whole piece. I also like how the flutes blend into the larger ethos of the carver's magic, which is another really cool aesthetic, and which I'm excited to see more of in the future. "The Night of the Stilled Wind" is such an eerie name. ( :takei: ) And it's great to get a little more of a glimpse into Aamir's background and family context, too.

All of which is a long-winded way of saying that I really like this piece! (OK, pun about 50-percent intended.) Thanks again for sharing!

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<Roy from "The I.T. Crowd">MY HEART HURTS.</Roy from "The I.T. Crowd">

:cry:

It's strange, isn't it, how many of my stories elicit this sort of response...

:D

Well, I am woefully late to this particular story ( :blush: ), but late is still preferential to never,

Agreed! I always like to hear people's thoughts on my stuff, whether I posted it two hours ago, two days ago, two weeks ago, or two years!

and I'm super glad to have finally read this. It's another typically wonderful piece from the estimable Raven, and I can definitely see the Barinellos touches as well. So thank you both so much for sharing!

This story was a long time in the making, so I'm glad you liked it. And of course, as you point out, Barinellos was instrumental in its creation!

There's a lot to like, here, but I'm particularly fond of the tree flutes. That's just a really wonderful image which manages to feel at once both novel and like something which *should* exist, and those are the sorts of things I always love to discover in stories. And the kind of sound I can imagine them making is a wonderful sensory cue which just adds atmosphere to the whole piece. I also like how the flutes blend into the larger ethos of the carver's magic, which is another really cool aesthetic, and which I'm excited to see more of in the future.

Again, I'm glad this worked for you. I was really happy with the image of those flutes, and when they come back into the story in the flashback as a contributor to the catastrophe, I felt it was a pretty haunting image. And, as it happens, it fits in nicely with the musical theme of Aamir and his mother.

"The Night of the Stilled Wind" is such an eerie name. ( :takei: )

I'm a big fan of this phrase, and for this story, it was one of those "kill your darlings" kind of moment. I wanted to get it in there, but it just never really worked the way I wanted it to. It might come up again at some point in the indeterminant future, but for now, it's more of a background term.

And it's great to get a little more of a glimpse into Aamir's background and family context, too.

Yeah, as I've said, Barinellos has done some great work with Aamir's family and hasn't really had a way to showcase it yet. I'm glad that this story could shine at least a partial spotlight on it.

All of which is a long-winded way of saying that I really like this piece! (OK, pun about 50-percent intended.) Thanks again for sharing!

That pun blows.

:paranoid:

:D

Thanks for reading, Orcish!


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