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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:27 pm 
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Aaarrrgh wrote:
I don't have a question here, I'm just pondering the implications of the "main protagonist" question. The two most likely reasons in my mind for why we got such a complicated answer is that the character is either a) the viewpoint character, but not the hero, or b) the hero but not the viewpoint character. But I honestly have no clue.

That one's been tripping me up a bit, too. It could also be the focus of a "story within a story," which could make him the "main protagonist" of a story, but not of one of our stories. Barinellos also has a tendency to use in-world documents, both in stories and for world-building, so it might be a character from one such "found document."

I'm sure it will make sense once we learn the answer, but yes, this is a puzzler for now.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:52 am 
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Incidentally, a "no" on this question has punted the ball pretty much completely out of my court, if you don't mind me mixing my sports metaphors. I can't think of a single character that fits each of these answers, which means one of two things: either I'm missing something (which seems quite likely) or the questions we've asked have led us down a wrong path of assumptions. So I'll burn a question or two checking my assumptions.

Well, I wouldn't dare assume your assumptions, but I don't think you're as bad off as you might think quite yet.
You're still turning over your options, sure, but you haven't yet ruled out the thought process that'd lead you to the correct course.

1) Is it a person? Yes
2. Does this person identify as female? No
3]Did you create this character? Yes
4: Is this character of a race that would ordinarily be found on Theros? Yes
5- Is it a human? Yes
6} Does this character appear in a story that is currently uploaded to the NGA "Expanded Multiverse Archive" sub-forum? As best I can remember, No.
7/ Is this character from an MTG canon plane (as opposed to one of ours)? No, they are not from a canon plane.
8\Has the character ever appeared as the main protagonist of a story? Not in the way you mean, No. In another fashion, though, yes.
9> Has this character appeared in more than one story? No
10= Was the piece this character originally appeared in posted before 2015? No, it has been posted more recently than that.
11| Is the character from Jakkard, Lania, Gintrue, or Nuwar? No.
12~ Was this character introduced in a thread that has you, "Barinellos", labeled as the Author? Yes

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:30 am 
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Did the character appear in a story which was (entirely or in part) written as a first person narrative?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:57 am 
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1) Is it a person? Yes
2. Does this person identify as female? No
3]Did you create this character? Yes
4: Is this character of a race that would ordinarily be found on Theros? Yes
5- Is it a human? Yes
6} Does this character appear in a story that is currently uploaded to the NGA "Expanded Multiverse Archive" sub-forum? As best I can remember, No.
7/ Is this character from an MTG canon plane (as opposed to one of ours)? No, they are not from a canon plane.
8\Has the character ever appeared as the main protagonist of a story? Not in the way you mean, No. In another fashion, though, yes.
9> Has this character appeared in more than one story? No
10= Was the piece this character originally appeared in posted before 2015? No, it has been posted more recently than that.
11| Is the character from Jakkard, Lania, Gintrue, or Nuwar? No.
12~ Was this character introduced in a thread that has you, "Barinellos", labeled as the Author? Yes
13»Did the character appear in a story which was (entirely or in part) written as a first person narrative?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:23 am 
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...as far as I can see, you didn't actually answer the last question.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:30 am 
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Aaarrrgh wrote:
...as far as I can see, you didn't actually answer the last question.

Oops, my bad. I think it ate my text.
On reflection, it's a bit of a thinker actually. My first instinct is to answer no, but then there's the semantic argument to be had that any time a character may recount something it could theoretically qualify as to be written in the first person.

So, to better answer, the omniscient narration is never in first person.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:05 am 
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Was this character introduced in a thread that has the [Story] tag?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:51 am 
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1) Is it a person? Yes
2. Does this person identify as female? No
3]Did you create this character? Yes
4: Is this character of a race that would ordinarily be found on Theros? Yes
5- Is it a human? Yes
6} Does this character appear in a story that is currently uploaded to the NGA "Expanded Multiverse Archive" sub-forum? As best I can remember, No.
7/ Is this character from an MTG canon plane (as opposed to one of ours)? No, they are not from a canon plane.
8\Has the character ever appeared as the main protagonist of a story? Not in the way you mean, No. In another fashion, though, yes.
9> Has this character appeared in more than one story? No
10= Was the piece this character originally appeared in posted before 2015? No, it has been posted more recently than that.
11| Is the character from Jakkard, Lania, Gintrue, or Nuwar? No.
12~ Was this character introduced in a thread that has you, "Barinellos", labeled as the Author? Yes
13»Did the character appear in a story which was (entirely or in part) written as a first person narrative? No, not as an omniscient narrative.
14¦ Was this character introduced in a thread that has the [Story] tag? Yes.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:59 am 
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After some digging, this is the best guess I can find: Is it Marten, Aerik's brother?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:22 am 
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Aaarrrgh wrote:
After some digging, this is the best guess I can find: Is it Marten, Aerik's brother?

Aerik, and therefore his brother, are from Lania, so this would not satisfy question 11.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:40 am 
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Oh, dang it. Missed that one.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:05 am 
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Aaarrrgh wrote:
Oh, dang it. Missed that one.

No worries. I had considered Marten, too. Right now, I only have one idea, but I'm going to look over the options later today to see if I missed anything.

EDIT: Okay, well, my one idea is from a story that has been uploaded to the Archive, so it's not that. Okay, I'm going to start over from scratch.


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Okay, so I'm going to talk this through, mostly for my own benefit and that of Aaarrrgh's. I'll put it in a spoiler block for length. Aaarrrgh, if you notice anything I'm missing or assumptions that might not be true, feel free to point them out.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:18 am 
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"Sanguinem et Veritas" has omniscient first person narration in the flashback sequences, so that whole story is out. I followed a similar process (except I obviously forgot about the whole deal with the planes), and so far I've come up absolutely blank. So go ahead and make the guess, I'd say.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:29 am 
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Alright, then. Is it the farmer in "A Requiem of Frost and Flame"?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:48 pm 
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Ding!
It is, indeed, the rhino herder that hired Aerik.

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Barinellos wrote:
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Ding!
It is, indeed, the rhino herder that hired Aerik.

That was definitely obscure. What made you think of him, specifically?


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Barinellos wrote:
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Ding!
It is, indeed, the rhino herder that hired Aerik.

That was definitely obscure. What made you think of him, specifically?

Well, even though I haven't dug into listing out any characters or discussions yet, I did start the celebration thread because I have fun with the minor characters. I try to give them a sense of life outside the one chance encounter (hell, I could probably concoct backstories for all of them) but there's just something about the quirkiness of a farmer that raises wooly rhinos that sticks with me. The juxtaposition of how odd the livestock is to us, but how ultimately mundane it would be to him. So, I just have a soft spot for this backwater yokel.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:50 am 
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I think I'm batting around another pick for this, but I still have about a half dozen choices.

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