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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:41 pm 
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neru wrote:
Surtland Elementalist isn't legendary.

Oops! I'll edit that out. Missed that part of the clue.

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The whole "choose, 1, 2 and 3 at random" in Tibalt's Trickery just seems so pointless.

Yeah, I don't get why it doesn't just mill 3, besides... not wanting to give red non-random mill I guess???

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:47 pm 
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Riorvard wrote:
The whole "choose, 1, 2 and 3 at random" in Tibalt's Trickery just seems so pointless.


It's to make it harder to use it on your own spells to cheat in something big that you've put on top of your library.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:52 pm 
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Aaarrrgh wrote:
Riorvard wrote:
The whole "choose, 1, 2 and 3 at random" in Tibalt's Trickery just seems so pointless.


It's to make it harder to use it on your own spells to cheat in something big that you've put on top of your library.

I still feel like "mill 3" works just as well in most cases. If someone goes through the trouble of putting a card exactly fourth from the top of their library, I'd say let them have it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:01 pm 
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Scroll Rack sees enough play that I think it was justified.

Edit: Of course, you can just put three lands on top of the card you want to ignore it anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:27 am 
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We just got an ox that crews vehicles with its toughness rather than its power


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:02 pm 
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We also got our 3-mana 6/6 and our X tokens.

• 2{B} for a 6/6 with deathtouch
Egon, God of Death

• a card that lets you use a creature’s toughness to perform an action normally using a creature’s power
Giant Ox

• “create X of those tokens instead”
Starnheim Unleashed

That leaves the following:
• a card that allows you to kill someone with poison
• numerous new noncreature tokens (two so far)
• a card that can make a token that’s a copy of target permanent for no mana
• a card with three activation costs, one that’s only ever used once before and the other two have never been used before
• “except for Giants, Wizards, and lands”
• Zombie Rogue
• Vampire Dragon
• Legendary Creature – Giant Wizard

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:17 pm 
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• a card that allows you to kill someone with poison

Isn't that the new Vorinclex too? Pretty sure it fits two boxes in Maro's checklist.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:21 pm 
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I believe Maro expanded on it saying you can kill with poison in Kaldheim limited. So there has to be another card (presumably connected to Vorinclex) which actually provides the counters.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:47 pm 
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I saw a leak but it was more hushed up than others so I don't know if it was proven wrong or just extra forbidden. It was a creature that gave a player a poison counter on etb and could remove poison counters from opponents to give itself indestructible or something. So, could theoretically kill someone with poison but internally sufficient as a one-shot regeneration effect.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:02 pm 
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Filled in a couple of giant clues.

• “except for Giants, Wizards, and lands”
Cyclone Summoner

• Legendary Creature – Giant Wizard
Aegar, the Freezing Flame

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• a card with three activation costs, one that’s only ever used once before and the other two have never been used before
Ascendant Spirit ( appeared on Frost Raptor)

• Zombie Rogue
Draugr Mindthief

Still waiting on...
• a card that allows you to kill someone with poison
• numerous new noncreature tokens (two so far)
• a card that can make a token that’s a copy of target permanent for no mana (This might be Esika's Chariot, but the clue seems to imply a card that actually says "target permanent".)
• Vampire Dragon

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:22 am 
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A card that allows you to kill someone with poison: http://mythicspoiler.com/khm/cards/fynn ... earer.html

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:29 pm 
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Vampire Dragon: Immersturm Predator


Last edited by BelangiaJo on Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:33 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:31 pm 
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That image is so big it's hurting my brain. Make it stop.

• a card that allows you to kill someone with poison
Fynn, the Fangbearer

• Vampire Dragon
Immersturm Predator

Well... we might be done, but I'm not convinced. Where are our other noncreature tokens? Does copying "target token" really count as copying "target permanent"? These questions are keeping me awake at night. WotC, pls.

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I still haven't figured out the image size code.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:43 pm 
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Where are our other noncreature tokens?


Icy Manaliths are a thing now.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:47 pm 
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Aaarrrgh wrote:
Where are our other noncreature tokens?


Icy Manaliths are a thing now.

lol, that name is quite on the nose. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:08 pm 
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Now we're definitely done! Thanks, Orvar!

• numerous new noncreature tokens
Shard, Replicated Ring, Icy Manalith

• a card that can make a token that’s a copy of target permanent for no mana
Orvar, the All-Form

It feels kinda silly that two of the tokens are identical in everything except name, but flavor is important I guess.

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