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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 7:18 am 
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:w::u::b::r: Yore-Tiller :w::u::b::r:


:w::u::b::r: Multicoloured Card List :w::u::b::r:


:w::w::w: White Card List :w::w::w:


:u::u::u: Blue Card List :u::u::u:


:b::b::b: Black Card List :b::b::b:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:46 pm 
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I guess I'll be the first to contribute to this thread. Yeah, 4 color archetypes aren't very viable right now. But with the tri-lands coming soon if the rumors about the Alara DLC are true, I could easily take the list I have right now and tweak the manabase and it should be viable. I have made Grixis, Esper and America Control lists and there is something about all of them that I really like and something about all of them that I wish they had access to, so this is pretty much my attempt to include everything that I want to include from this cardpool in a control deck. Like I said, with the manabase as it is right now, it's not really viable. But just use your imagination lol. By the way, it's got premiums.

4-color Control (61)

Removal/Sweepers (14)
3 Shock
3 Ulcerate
3 Reprisal
1 Angelic Edict
2 Anger of the Gods
2 Planar Cleansing

Permission (5)
3 Dissolve
2 Negate

Card Draw (7)
4 Think Twice
3 Inspiration

Hand Disruption (2)
2 Mind Rot

Utility (2)
2 Darksteel Ingot

Finishers (6)
1 Baneslayer Angel
1 Inferno Titan
2 Charmbreaker Devils
2 Rune-Scarred Demon

Land (25)

3 Plains
3 Island
3 Swamp
3 Mountain
2 Azorius Guildgate
3 Izzet Guildgate
2 Rakdos Guildgate
2 Boros Guildgate
2 Dimir Guildgate
2 Orzhov Guildgate

Some notes on card choices...

Finishers - The best of the best that these colors can offer in my opinion. The only other finisher I really want to be able to include is Griselbrand, but that's definitely not gonna work with the way the manabase is right now, and it may still be a stretch even when/if we get the tri-lands.

Permission - Had to cut something to be able to include the Ingots with everything else I wanted to include, and Nullify's cost-to-benefit ratio was too restrictive anyway. If I gotta get out double blue for a counter, it had better counter anything. I'm looking at you, Dissolve. Negates I still had to include for backup against removal for my finishers. Man, I wish we had gotten something like Sphinx of Jwar Isle or one of the 'lings. Hey, I can dream, can't I?

Removal - Again, best of the best. Except for maybe Angelic Edict, but I like that it is so broad in its targets and that it really really takes care of them permanently. As a 1-of, with the Charmbreaker Devilses, I think it's worth including.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:23 pm 
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I really want to be a special snowflake and run quad or rainbow, but even with tri-lands, there's just not enough stellar cards in every build. Grixis and America are definitely the finest tri-colours so far, but I think your build sneakily proves that Grixis is on the top for now.

You're running White practically for Planar Cleansing alone! I'm certain black or red replacements exist for Baneslayer or Angelic Edict. Alara needs to give White a MUCH more compelling finisher to warrant Yore-Tiller. That said, it'll probably be the only viable quad once it does.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:29 pm 
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Planar cleansing is awesome though. Don't forget the white angel that is also a great addition to control decks to boost up any life lost while controlling!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:34 pm 
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Yeah, Planar Cleansing is just awesome like 2bestest said, and almost worth it alone. And Overmaster, I think you're underestimating Baneslayer Angel. Black and Red do not have replacements for her. Also I think everyone, even in other threads, is underestimating Reprisal. A 2-cost instant-speed removal for any and all fatties and semi-fatties? You can't beat that in this meta.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:59 pm 
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Don't be angry. I used the deck planner. This is...at best an AI deck I force the computer to play when testing wacky stuff. This is a really hard deck to win with. However no one ever rage quits on you. And it's not like there's a quick game with this deck. Ever. Basically you hope to god you draw all 3 Switcharoos in the first hand and hope your opponent isn't playing this same exact deck. Ok, that's not really a tactic.

"Whats that card do?"
Nothing.

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A deck for Magic 2015.

60 Cards (35 :creature: , 3 :instant: , 22 :land:)

Color 9 cards
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Elite Vanguard2/1
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Glory Seeker2/2
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Thraben Purebloods3/5
Color 15 cards
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Kraken Hatchling0/4
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Maritime Guard1/3
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Blind Phantasm2/3
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Switcheroo
Color 6 cards
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Walking Corpse2/2
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Rotted Hulk2/5
Color 8 cards
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Regathan Firecat4/1
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Russet Wolves3/3
Colorless22 cards
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Azorius Guildgate
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Boros Guildgate
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Dimir Guildgate
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Izzet Guildgate
■■■■
Orzhov Guildgate
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Rakdos Guildgate
3
Island
2
Mountain
3
Plains
2
Swamp


Edit: smoothed it out land colorwise and curvewise, wondered how i missed the Regathan Firecat, fixed that. Less of the 3/5 dogs, lol. For something different, actually put this together and try it. Get over the blandness and actually play someone with it. It is not easy for the current decks out there to just roll over this deck. It pretty much always forces a long game. Its a horde. And yeah Switcharoo is a D*** move, but you kind of have to have ONE trick at least.


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4CC

A one vs. one deck for Magic 2015.

60 Cards (5 :creature: , 30 :instant: , 25 :land:)

Cost 4 cards
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Elixir of Immortality
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Shock
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Ulcerate
Cost 15 cards
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Wall of Omens0/4
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Armillary Sphere
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Courier's Capsule
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Negate
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Reprisal
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Think Twice
Cost 7 cards
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Anger of the Gods
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Auger Spree
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Dissolve
Cost 1 card
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Inspiration
Cost 4 cards
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Traumatic Visions
Cost 2 cards
Obelisk of Alara
Planar Cleansing
Cost 1 card
Resolute Archangel4/4
Cost 1 card
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth12/12
Land25 cards
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Arcane Sanctum
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Azorius Guildgate
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Crumbling Necropolis
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Izzet Guildgate
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Seaside Citadel
5
Island
2
Mountain
3
Plains
1
Swamp


I'm not quite sure I'm happy with the removal package and I tried adding a forest to run Ground Assault. Unfortunately it started making the mana too awkward but the card itself did well. I may cut black for green.

The deck controls the deck through till the extreme late game and usually wins through attrition by recycling your 2 main threats, mixed with additional draw, counters and removal.

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Heroic Mastery

A one vs. one deck for Magic 2015.

60 Cards (18 :creature: , 18 :instant: , 24 :land:)

Creature18 cards
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Satyr Hoplite1/1
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Tormented Hero2/1
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Triton Shorestalker1/1
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Hero of Iroas2/2
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Agent of the Fates3/2
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Brood Keeper2/3
Baneslayer Angel5/5
Spell18 cards
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Furor of the Bitten
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Ordeal of Heliod
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Arrest
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Darksteel Ingot
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Marked by Honor
Burning Anger
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Meteorite
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Elder Mastery
Obelisk of Alara
Land24 cards
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Arcane Sanctum
■■■
Crumbling Necropolis
3
Island
5
Mountain
6
Plains
4
Swamp


Hey everyone I'm new here :)

Heres a new deck I built recently, and I am really enjoying the flavor and aggro style.

Basicly just get your heroic creatures out and enchant them.

Satyr Hoplite & Tormented Hero - great early attackers - better with auras
Triton Shorestalker - for evasion
Hero of Iroas - cheaper auras
Arrests - good for getting rid of annyoing stuff and cheaper because of Iroas
Agent of fates - this is what you want to enchant
Elder Mastery - so crazy good -evasion, damage and discard in one cute package
Burning Anger - this + Baneslayer = winning
Furor, Ordeal and Marked by Honor - meat & potatoes auras
Brood Keeper - Yaaay Dragons

so thats the deck

let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions feel free to comment.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:45 am 
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Welcome!

A collection of random thoughts:

I think you could very safely cut Triton Shorestalker from the list and just splash blue for Elder Mastery. This would make your mana a lot better, I think. I would play Truefire Paladin in any Aura deck that can cast him, he's amazing.

I also think that playing the full four copies of Arrest in a deck with Agent of the Fates diminishes his value a lot because they can just sacrifice any Arrested creatures. I'd play one or the other but not both in the same deck.

I think you can do better than Furor of the Bitten and Marked by Honor, as well. Nimbus Wings and Asha's Favor are both amazing because of the evasion they give you and Favor grants Vigilance for cheaper just without the +2/+2.

I'd also cut the Meteorite because it's just bad. If you need better mana add more Ingots because they're cheaper. If you need a Shock, play Shock because it's cheaper.

Some number of Artful Dodge should be on your radar, as well, it's a great heroic enabler because you can cast it twice.

Wrecking Ogre is another card to think about. It is nice to suit up with an aura and it's a game-winner if you bloodrush it. The only "downside" (if you can call it that) is that bloodrush isn't a spell so it won't trigger heroic. Who cares, though, because you just won the game.

Let me know if you considered and/or tested any of these cards and I'll give some more detailed feedback.

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4CC

A one vs. one deck for Magic 2015.

60 Cards (5 :creature: , 30 :instant: , 25 :land:)

Cost 4 cards
■■
Elixir of Immortality
■■■■
Shock
■■
Ulcerate
Cost 15 cards
■■■
Wall of Omens0/4
■■■
Armillary Sphere
■■■■
Courier's Capsule
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Negate
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Reprisal
■■■■
Think Twice
Cost 7 cards
■■
Anger of the Gods
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Auger Spree
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Dissolve
Cost 1 card
■■■
Inspiration
Cost 4 cards
■■■■
Traumatic Visions
Cost 2 cards
Obelisk of Alara
Planar Cleansing
Cost 1 card
Resolute Archangel4/4
Cost 1 card
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth12/12
Land25 cards
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Arcane Sanctum
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Azorius Guildgate
■■■
Crumbling Necropolis
■■■■
Izzet Guildgate
■■■
Seaside Citadel
5
Island
2
Mountain
3
Plains
1
Swamp


I'm not quite sure I'm happy with the removal package and I tried adding a forest to run Ground Assault. Unfortunately it started making the mana too awkward but the card itself did well. I may cut black for green.

The deck controls the deck through till the extreme late game and usually wins through attrition by recycling your 2 main threats, mixed with additional draw, counters and removal.


You should check out The Monkeem Project v2 in the Ink-Treader thread and let us know what you think over there. I think Ground Assault is worth the splash and black definitely brings the least to the table as far as control (sad, I know).

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:48 am 
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Hello gentlemen after a great deal of testing I would like to introduce a unique 4 colour flier air beats deck.

2 x [c]Cloudfin Raptor [c/]
3 x [c]Shock[/c]
4 x [c]Squadron Hawk [c/]
4 x [c] Tidehollow Strix [c/]
3 x [c] Military Intelligence [c/]
3 x [c] Niblis of the Breath [c/]
2 x [c] Bident of Thassa [c/]
1 x [c] Baneslayer Angel [c/]
1 x [c] Stormbreath Dragon [c/]
2 x [c] Indulgent Tormentor [c/]
3 x [c] Angelic Edict [c/]
1 x [c] Time Warp [c/]
1 x [c] Soul of Ravnica
1 x [c] Planar Cleansing [c/]
2 x [c] Rune-Scarred Demon [c/]
2 x [c] Siege Dragon [c/]
1 x [c]Griselbrand[/c]

For lands I am running an even split for most but little influence on red in the dual and tri colour lands.

4 x island
4 x plains
4 x swamp
4 x mountain
3 x arcane sanctum
3 x crumbling necropolis
2 x azorius guildate

This is mainly to make sure i hit the dual mana costs of each colour but I have put a larger blue/white mana base to make sure i hit my early game stride into military intelligence draws. Also hakeem if you could show me how to format it I can clean up my post.

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4 Colour Air Beats

A deck for Magic 2015.

60 Cards (23 :creature: , 13 :instant: , 24 :land:)

Creature23 cards
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Cloudfin Raptor0/1
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Squadron Hawk1/1
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Tidehollow Strix2/1
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Niblis of the Breath2/1
Baneslayer Angel5/5
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Indulgent Tormentor5/3
Stormbreath Dragon4/4
Soul of Ravnica6/6
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Rune-Scarred Demon6/6
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Siege Dragon5/5
Griselbrand7/7
Spell13 cards
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Shock
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Military Intelligence
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Bident of Thassa
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Angelic Edict
Time Warp
Planar Cleansing
Land24 cards
■■■
Arcane Sanctum
■■■■
Azorius Guildgate
■■■
Crumbling Necropolis
4
Island
4
Mountain
4
Plains
4
Swamp


Sorry about that boys. Here is the deck in all its glory. Let me know what you think about the mana curve and any other suggestions hakeem and friends. I have thought about shivan dragon vs siege dragon and about shadowborn demon and Aegis Angel as well but I think its in a good spot as far as a pure evasion deck goes.

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T16: Defenders

A one vs. one deck for Magic 2015.

60 Cards (20 :creature: , 16 :instant: , 24 :land:)

Creature20 cards
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Doorkeeper0/4
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Wall of Omens0/4
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Coral Barrier1/3
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Guard Gomazoa1/3
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Ogre Jailbreaker4/4
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Vent Sentinel2/4
Spell16 cards
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Illusionist's Bracers
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Negate
■■
Reprisal
■■■■
Think Twice
■■
Anger of the Gods
■■■■
Auger Spree
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Traumatic Visions
Land24 cards
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Arcane Sanctum
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Azorius Guildgate
■■■
Crumbling Necropolis
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Dimir Guildgate
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Izzet Guildgate
1
Island
5
Mountain
3
Plains
1
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For 3 plus colored decks, rather stick to multicolor creatures if I can help it (find them to be more overwhelming and cost less compared to mono colored creatures). Mono colors provide better instant and sorcery spells. With that, constructed the following greenless deck.

It is a straight forward power and control egotistical type deck with added discarding ability at the end (starting to find this a theme with my decks). Green is associated with ground level earth stuff, thus no green equates to less ground patrol. A good deal of the creatures in this deck are flying. Thus, take off. Here it goes.

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A deck for Magic 2015.

60 Cards (16 :creature: , 20 :instant: , 24 :land:)

Multicolored18 cards
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Tidehollow Strix2/1
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Truefire Paladin2/2
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Skymark Roc3/3
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Tower Gargoyle4/4
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Mardu Roughrider5/4
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Dinrova Horror4/4
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Elder Mastery
Color 5 cards
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Arrest
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Angelic Edict
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Planar Cleansing
Color 3 cards
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Think Twice
Color 2 cards
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Tribute to Hunger
Sheoldred, Whispering One6/6
Color 3 cards
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Shock
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Banefire
Colorless29 cards
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Traveler's Amulet
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Darksteel Ingot
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Arcane Sanctum
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Crumbling Necropolis
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Mystic Monastery
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Nomad Outpost
3
Island
3
Mountain
3
Plains
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Swamp


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I don't think this list can work... the more colors you add the less reliable an aggro strategy becomes, even 3 colors is kinda pushing it


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One Creature

A one vs. one deck for Magic 2015.

60 Cards (1 :creature: , 36 :instant: , 23 :land:)

Creature1 card
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth12/12
Spell36 cards
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Shock
■■■
Negate
■■■■
Nullify
■■■■
Think Twice
■■
Anger of the Gods
■■■
Dissolve
■■■■
Resounding Thunder
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Tribute to Hunger
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Inspiration
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Angelic Edict
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Traumatic Visions
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Obelisk of Alara
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Planar Cleansing
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Banefire
■■
Suffer the Past
Land23 cards
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Arcane Sanctum
■■■
Crumbling Necropolis
■■
Frontier Bivouac
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Mystic Monastery
5
Island
3
Mountain
3
Plains
1
Swamp


The theme for this deck is simple. Overdraw your hand to get to what you need. Counter/burn creatures as they enter the field. Hold up negate to protect an Obelisk or a Kozi. If you run out of cards, cycle your yard with Kozi. Use Banefire/Cycle resounding thunder to finish. Thoughts?


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Calling all deck builders!!!!!!!

I need your help to tweak this list. The idea is to make going off with warp world as consistent as possible. I want the deck to be focused on finding warp world and then going off until your opponent has zero permanents. Here is the list

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Warp World

A one vs. one deck for Magic 2015.

60 Cards (19 :creature: , 17 :instant: , 24 :land:)

Cost 1 card
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Elixir of Immortality
Cost 7 cards
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Armillary Sphere
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Courier's Capsule
Cost 10 cards
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Coral Barrier1/3
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Guard Gomazoa1/3
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Darksteel Ingot
Cost 1 card
Master of Waves2/1
Cost 6 cards
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Warden of the Eye3/3
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Meteorite
Cost 7 cards
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Captain of the Watch3/3
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Dinrova Horror4/4
Inferno Titan6/6
Obelisk of Alara
Cost 2 cards
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Rune-Scarred Demon6/6
Cost 2 cards
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Warp World
Land24 cards
11
Island
9
Mountain
2
Plains
2
Swamp


It seems strange to have a 4.colour deck without green but needing a lot of red sources and only using basics makes the mana tough. I want to make this as competitive as possible.

I am off out but will go into more detail about card choices later. I have put in about 15 hours of testing with different variations of warp world and this one has yielded the best results. I am currently 14-4 with this list with most of my losses being to aggro decks. I have resigned myself to losing to hyper aggro but guard gomozoa gives you a chance.


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Monk that is thinking outside the box, probably in a good way. Removing cultivate takes the deck from 90% permanents to 97%.

I haven't played with my WW list in a while, I was testing Pyxis which I think doesn't do enough as a topdeck later in the game. But I was running 5 colors. Here are my thoughts:

The top of my curve (6 mana+) looks identical except -1 obelisk +1 resolute archangel. Obelisk may be better in longer games, but the archangel has saved my bacon vs aggro.

Master of waves is a really good tech with 17 other blue permanents. That said, I think some of your blue choices would be better in other colors. I run 3x arrest and 3x galvanic arc. I think attended knight is better than coral barrier. I think wall of omens may also be better than coral barrier - I think early in the game drawing more cards so you hit land drops is more important than increasing permanent count directly.

If you are going to cut green, I think kor cartographer is at least worthy of consideration.


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I had a white version for a long time but it didn't have any draw power and often you sat there with a bunch of 2/2's. I tried staying white but adding couriers capsule. The problem with that is you can't have enough blue sources to make it consistent. I think the only way to build the deck is to choose 1 main colour in addition to red and only have other colours for the late game. I have tried blue, white and green and blue came out as the most consistent.

Here is the comparison between blue and white.

Couriers capsule vs wall of omens - wall is better in the early game and does have some value off warp world. However I have decked myself with it a few times. Capsule gives you more draw power and gives
Warden of the eye some additional value. It also means you can warp infinitely without decking yourself.

Coral barrier vs attended knight. There is not a lot of difference here. Knight is slightly better but when we are ready to win our opponent will have little to no permanents.

Arrest vs guard gomozoa. Personally I have found gomozoa to be slightly better. It can hold off a few small creatures with 1 toughness. Arrest can be better vs trample though.

Kor cartographer vs master of waves. Not a direct comparison but they take up the same slot on the curve. Cartographer is better at letting you cast an early warp but master can help stabilise vs aggro and is insane off warp. Often generating 8+ permanents.

Basically make the above changes and swap the island a plains count. That was my white deck I tested for a long time. I think blue is better though.


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