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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:11 pm 
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No deckbuilding advice. If you are like me and you hate playing hurrrdurrr 6 boardwhipe planeswalker dec., and tune your decks to face that and other obvious suspects you get demolished by this. I lost HEAVILY vs this pilot on play on draw since my testing is so inbred by the meta. I eventually had to play tempo midrange to beat it. Horrible deck. Pile of bad cards. But better treat it like a speed test; or your deck deserves to be punished. Radiant flames just became a must play.


:evil: updated the list a little bit Make a Stand is too good

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:01 pm 
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I'm playing something similar to your list wecoexist. Just finished a 10-0 run. I started out with white + eldrazi (which is great too), but decided that I want something faster:

1 x Kytheon, Hero of Akros
3 x Topplegeist
3 x Anointer of Champions
3 x Expedition Envoy
2 x Hanweir Militia Captain
2 x Thalia's Lieutenant
2 x Knight of the White Orchid
3 x Consul's Lieutenant
4 x Topan Freeblade
4 x Grasp of the Hieromancer
2 x Expose Evil
2 x Declaration in Stone
2 x Bygone Bishop
2 x Always Watching
3 x Make a Stand
1 x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar

21 x Plains


I wish we had a few better 1 and 2 drops, then the deck would be even better. Topplegeist and Expose Evil are awesome for pushing damage through. Make a Stand is wipe protection, wipe or finisher.

I'm a bit on the fence with Grasp, but it was always good and still seems to work.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:19 pm 
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I'm playing something similar to your list wecoexist. Just finished a 10-0 run. I started out with white + eldrazi (which is great too), but decided that I want something faster:

1 x Kytheon, Hero of Akros
3 x Topplegeist
3 x Anointer of Champions
3 x Expedition Envoy
2 x Hanweir Militia Captain
2 x Thalia's Lieutenant
2 x Knight of the White Orchid
3 x Consul's Lieutenant
4 x Topan Freeblade
4 x Grasp of the Hieromancer
2 x Expose Evil
2 x Declaration in Stone
2 x Bygone Bishop
2 x Always Watching
3 x Make a Stand
1 x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar

21 x Plains


I wish we had a few better 1 and 2 drops, then the deck would be even better. Topplegeist and Expose Evil are awesome for pushing damage through. Make a Stand is wipe protection, wipe or finisher.

I'm a bit on the fence with Grasp, but it was always good and still seems to work.

Looks sweet and much faster than the version i posted! (not sure if thats better)

I'm currently testing Annointer of Champions again in a list that splashes blue literally just for reflector mage. Its been doing alright but its nothing impressive honestly, also i think that archangel of tithes is too good not to run as a curve topper. I'm curious to know how good Expose Evil is in comparison to Nimbus Wings though. Have you tested them both?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:41 pm 
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Nimbus wings gives evasion. If Expose Evil should go in, it should replace Grasp. I'm really not sure about that card here. I think Expose Evil would be better. But your results are really good for an initial run so I'm hesitant to complain. Let's see how high the win streak can go then have a conversation around those grasp 2for1 magnets

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:48 pm 
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Nimbus wings gives evasion. If Expose Evil should go in, it should replace Grasp. I'm really not sure about that card here. I think Expose Evil would be better. But your results are really good for an initial run so I'm hesitant to complain. Let's see how high the win streak can go then have a conversation around those grasp 2for1 magnets

Grasp has been really good even though it does present an easy 2 for 1. You might really like this deck barney the winrate is crazy :D

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Man, it’s hard to think of grasp being any type of good now but results don't lie. I think I like the Polish build better though. I think I'll try it.

The win rate of your build is good ?

Man, the list of decks to try is getting nuts. I love it :)

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:59 pm 
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Its extremely good! This is the only deck I've played to rank 40 this season.

Its hard for me to make changes because what I've been using is working really well.

I'm going to test out Auunj's list later tonight, but swapping out 1 make a stand for archangel of tithes.

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No idea what your record is ? Man I track that stuff like nobody's business. I need to make a case when I throw maggits boros tokens deck back in his face

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:08 pm 
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The first 50 games I went 41-9, stopped tracking after that.

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82% isn't good enough for the great Black Barney? :(

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No idea what your record is ? Man I track that stuff like nobody's business. I need to make a case when I throw maggits boros tokens deck back in his face

I'm 10-0 with his deck so far. Just doing a online duel everyday or so taking my time. Rank 10 currently.


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Hmm, has anyone considered splashing blue for these lists to include Reflector Mage?

W/U humans (with RM being the only blue card) had a decent showing at the latest SCG (only outclassed by Bant CoCo), and they all ran it with just a couple of islands (in some cases just a single) and a few dual lands. I'm tuning a list at the minute myself to see how it plays.

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Hmm, has anyone considered splashing blue for these lists to include Reflector Mage?

W/U humans (with RM being the only blue card) had a decent showing at the latest SCG (only outclassed by Bant CoCo), and they all ran it with just a couple of islands (in some cases just a single) and a few dual lands. I'm tuning a list at the minute myself to see how it plays.

But then it would be Azorius and not mono white.....

Such lists already exist.


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Hmm, has anyone considered splashing blue for these lists to include Reflector Mage?

W/U humans (with RM being the only blue card) had a decent showing at the latest SCG (only outclassed by Bant CoCo), and they all ran it with just a couple of islands (in some cases just a single) and a few dual lands. I'm tuning a list at the minute myself to see how it plays.


I've tested a few lists that splash for reflector mage, It plays just a little bit slower but in creature based matchups its stronger than mono white usually.

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Nuke, 10-0 with coexists's deck?

I feel like Homer Simpson when he has his first Foster's in Oz. "Yeah, that’s pretty big....i guess "

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Nuke, 10-0 with coexists's deck?

I feel like Homer Simpson when he has his first Foster's in Oz. "Yeah, that’s pretty big....i guess "


Correction, 13-0.

Edit: Actually it might be 14-0. I forgot. :D


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Preferred Pronoun Set: Xhir/xhim, depending on Moon phase
My take on white weenies, at last I decided to try, lol...same as errybody, just a couple minor twists

Pious Beatdown


1 x Kytheon, Hero of Akros
3 x Expedition Envoy
1 x Stoneforge masterwork
2 x Enshrouding Mist

2 x Knight of the White Orchid
3 x Consul's Lieutenant
2 x Hanweir Militia Captain
2 x Topan Freeblade
2 x Relic Seeker
2 x Thalia's Lieutenant
2 x Declaration in Stone
2 x Nimbus Wings

2 x Bygone Bishop
2 x Pious Evangel
2 x Make a Stand
2 x Always Watching

2 x Kytheon's Irregulars
1 x Archangel of Tithes
1 x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar

1 x Archangel Avacyn

21 x Plains
2 x Westvale Abbey


Still figuring out if 22 or 23 lands.

I like the Seeker/stoneforge duo better than 4 Topans...after all, vigilance isn't that important here, plus AW gives it anyways...and it can become huge

What nobody plays in white weenie
and I love them is a couple of Pious Evangels. Their stats aren't good but neither abhorrent, and unfliped, they give a very welcomed lifegain which can become quite relevant with Captains, Gideon or Abbeys on the field. Good for the mirror game too

Flipped, they let you attack with more abandon, they become a good anti-sweeper and combs wonderfully with Avacyn (read: who dares to kill one of my 6 creatures? It's gonna cost you 5-7 lives, and probably a really bad board afterwards ) ...besides becoming a respectable creature in themselves.

And the flip is instant speed...and a good use for those Clues out of the Bishops. Finally, they are humans AND clerics...so Stoneforge has not only humans, but clerics as semi-functional condition (Evangels, Bishops and Abbey tokens) not to mention he makes the arrival of Ormy even more painful

A note on sweepers (and anti-sweepers): are they so worrisome? Flames tend to be not enough for our best creatures, Outburst tend to be slow and dodgeable...Ignition, Miasma etc aren't too played...the worst is maybe Languish... so 2 cards to worry against black decks?

And yes, I have to admit this is the new RDW...very consistent and powerful, even when I keep getting 4-5 land hands, lol


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:27 am 
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No idea what your record is ? Man I track that stuff like nobody's business. I need to make a case when I throw maggits boros tokens deck back in his face


Have you tried the updated list I posted?

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