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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:07 pm 
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I guess we can start submitting ixalan-block decklists to discuss right?

I'll kick it off with a rakdos Pirate build:

Rakdos Shiver me Timbers!

Creatures (26)
2 x Captivating Crew
4 x Dire Fleet Captain
1 x Dire Fleet Ravager
4 x Fathom Fleet Captain
3 x Fiery Cannonade
2 x Headstrong Brute
4 x Rigging Runner
2 x Storm Fleet Arsonist
4 x Wanted Scoundrels

Spells (9)
2 x Vraska's Contempt
2 x Repeating Barrage
4 x Lightning Strike
1 x March of the Drowned

Artifacts (5)
2 x Vanquisher's Banner
3 x Fell Flagship

Land (20)
6 x Swamp
4 x Unclaimed Territory
6 x Mountain
4 x Dragonskull Summit


20 Land is probably too few, but I'm hoping Arena Rng isn't as Broken as Duels...
Might cut the 2 Headstrong Brutes for 2 land, or some of the 5-drops if they don't turn out to be as good as they look.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:09 pm 
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In red i feel like the only cards you really want to play are Lightning Strike and Dire Fleet Captain.
My take on pirates would be dimir and looks something like this:

4 Siren Stormtamer
4 Daring Saboteur
4 Fathom Fleet Captain
3 Kitesail Freebooter
4 Ruin Raider
4 Dreamcaller Siren
4 Hostage Taker

4 Lookout's Dispersal

3 Chart a Course
4 Walk the Plank

7 Island
7 Swamp
4 Drowned Catacomb
4 Unclaimed Territory

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:04 pm 
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Lordless Merfolks:

4 x Kumena's Speaker
4 x Merfolk Branchwalker
1 x Deeproot Champion
3 x Perilous Voyage
4 x Vineshaper Mystic
4 x Shapers of Nature
4 x Deeproot Waters
4 x Growing Rites of Itlimoc
1 x Herald of Secret Streams
1 x Conqueror's Galleon
2 x Vanquisher's Banner
1 x River's Rebuke
3 x Tishana, Voice of Thunder

10 x Island
14 x Forest


The idea is to go superwide with Deeproot Waters (trying to break arena), make ton of mana with Itlimoc, Cradle of the Sun, draw a bunch of cards with Tishana, Voice of Thunder and repeat step 1-3. No dual land is a bit harsh but the deck is 80% green. Shapers of Nature is another good mana sink, you can use it at instant speed the turn you flip the land, put counters, draw cards. Some problems against flyers, but the deck has the ability to race them, otherwise there could be space for Crushing Canopy, but only after testing. Wotc doesn't understand what cool means, i just wanted to break arena on stream :(

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:28 pm 
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For the record... I can't **** believe WotC is making us build single set decks again. I'm really probably not going to play this game for 2 years.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:38 pm 
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DJ0045 wrote:
For the record... I can't **** believe WotC is making us build single set decks again. I'm really probably not going to play this game for 2 years.


For what its worth, it is a beta and not a finished product...

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DJ0045 wrote:
For the record... I can't **** believe WotC is making us build single set decks again. I'm really probably not going to play this game for 2 years.


For what its worth, it is a beta and not a finished product...


So was Duels. :P

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:53 pm 
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DJ0045 wrote:
For the record... I can't **** believe WotC is making us build single set decks again. I'm really probably not going to play this game for 2 years.


Arena will mirror Standard, and the smallest Standard gets these days is 5 Sets.

BTW, I really don't see the point of a subforum for this right now.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:56 pm 
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For the record... I can't **** believe WotC is making us build single set decks again. I'm really probably not going to play this game for 2 years.


Arena will mirror Standard, and the smallest Standard gets these days is 5 Sets.

BTW, I really don't see the point of a subforum for this right now.


At launch? Or in 2 years? I haven't actually seen any hard confirmation. But it would make a big difference if it was going to be 5 sets at launch.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:01 pm 
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DJ0045 wrote:
felbatista wrote:
DJ0045 wrote:
For the record... I can't **** believe WotC is making us build single set decks again. I'm really probably not going to play this game for 2 years.


Arena will mirror Standard, and the smallest Standard gets these days is 5 Sets.

BTW, I really don't see the point of a subforum for this right now.


At launch? Or in 2 years? I haven't actually seen any hard confirmation. But it would make a big difference if it was going to be 5 sets at launch.


At launch. If you look closely to that first trailer they released, you'll notice some Kaladesh cards, which is the oldest Set in Standard right now (which also pretty much confirms the game will be launched at some point before the next rotation).

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felbatista wrote:
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felbatista wrote:

Arena will mirror Standard, and the smallest Standard gets these days is 5 Sets.

BTW, I really don't see the point of a subforum for this right now.


At launch? Or in 2 years? I haven't actually seen any hard confirmation. But it would make a big difference if it was going to be 5 sets at launch.


At launch. If you look closely to that first trailer they released, you'll notice some Kaladesh cards, which is the oldest Set in Standard right now (which also pretty much confirms the game will be launched at some point before the next rotation).


Sweet! Thanks for letting me know! :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:37 am 
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Other than this type of dinos list, nothing really sparks any interest in me due to weak removal and reliable wincons. Would love to do a Primal Amulet deck with a full standard card pool.

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3x Commune with Dinosaurs
2x Shaper's Sanctuary
4x Otepec Huntmaster
4x Lightning Strike
2x Pillar of Origins
4x Drover of the Mighty
4x Ripjaw Raptor
2x Slice in Twain
2x Charging Monstrosaur
4x Regisaur Alpha
4x Carnage Tyrant

4x Rootbound Crag
4x Unclaimed Territory
2x Field of Ruin
6x Mountain
9x Forest

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:03 am 
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BBB, I was looking at similar. I think we only have the tools to go ramp, but personally I wanted to make midrange work instead, like you tried to do. In either case, the mana is a mess.


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Mana options aren't great all round post rotation. Hoping we get the other half of the cycle in Rivals, but given how they're focused on Shards atm (Grixis, Naya) it wouldn't surprise me if they passed the opportunity. Midrange is better with the full standard card pool (Bristling Hydra for example).

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Can I ask for a link where its been confirmed Ixilan only? Not doubting anyone but i've only seen them talk about standard and not this block constructed stuff, cheers.

Also where's our quick reply button on this forum? Stasis/Althalus we demand equal rights!!!

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Can I ask for a link where its been confirmed Ixilan only? Not doubting anyone but i've only seen them talk about standard and not this block constructed stuff, cheers.

Also where's our quick reply button on this forum? Stasis/Althalus we demand equal rights!!!


It was stated on the initial stream closed beta is XLN only. More blocks will be added "as they see fit" i.e. "when they are ready to".

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:31 pm 
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Can I ask for a link where its been confirmed Ixilan only? Not doubting anyone but i've only seen them talk about standard and not this block constructed stuff, cheers.

Also where's our quick reply button on this forum? Stasis/Althalus we demand equal rights!!!


I'll ask Althalus to get it done.

As for a dedicated deck list sub, let's hold off for now - we don't even know what cards we would have access to. We will start to develop traffic here eventually, but for now you guys just let me know if threads deserve stickies, etc... PM me as needed.

Once this sub starts getting traffic we'll bolt on new features. Please remember we've already got some of the things we'd need in other parts of the forum - for example constructed already exists assuming we get access to all Standard cards at launch. I'd want to incorporate everything together both for ease of use, and so that we don't separate topics in a divisive fashion.

Also, I'm around so let's have a discussion if you guys want.

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The fact that everyone is going to be running 4x Huntmaster/Ripjaw/Regisaur/Tyrant makes me think the difference makers are going to be Kinjalli's Caller & Sunwing. Ferocidon is an amazingly powerful card for its cost, but doesn't do all that much in the mirror, and it's most powerful against vampires but those get crushed by the Dino core regardless.

Red:6
4 x Otepec Huntmaster
2 x Lightning Strike

Green:13
2 x Shapers' Sanctuary
3 x Savage Stomp
4 x Ripjaw Raptor
4 x Carnage Tyrant

White:12
4 x Kinjalli's Caller
3 x Kinjalli's Sunwing
2 x Ixalan's Binding
3 x Settle the Wreckage

Gold:5
1 x Huatli, Warrior Poet
4 x Regisaur Alpha

Land:24
4 x Rootbound Crag
4 x Sunpetal Grove
4 x Forest
4 x Mountain
8 x Plains


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