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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:37 am 
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The only manipulation we've ever seen is a complete reversal. You said yourself that anything else would more or less break the game. Trying to account for every possible weirdness will get us nowhere. It seems safe to assume that all results are either correct or reversed.

I had written a lot more, but then I realized that I was basically just giving Lilan instructions on what to claim in order to frame me, and I'd rather she had to work that out herself.

I will say this, though:

vote: Lilan

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:15 am 
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This is a bad idea. If you are wrong, game over. We can wait one more day before the lynch, and have better odds of winning.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:42 pm 
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Yeah, but this is a numbers game. If we vote no Lynch, and Lilan sneaks in a vote right before deadline, we lose. I also don't see any reasonable scenario where Lilan isn't scum

You and Dusky both got same results for me and KoD. I know that KoD and I are the same alignment, so I know that there wasn't a result reversal. I got two different results, and one of my results is mod confirmed town, so the other must be scum. If anything else is true, then the mod is a horrible jerk who had made the game unsolvable, or a town player has lied about their results. To me, it is that easy.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:57 pm 
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What Aarrgh says sounds reasonable to me, but would like to hear from Lilan.
And I agree we unfortunately can't do a no lynch if one vote can change it to a lynch.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:27 pm 
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The only manipulation we've ever seen is a complete reversal. You said yourself that anything else would more or less break the game.


The Miller time ability of past years isn't the ace up krampus' sleeve this year... :laugh:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:11 am 
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...Crap.

Still, accounting for the unknown is impossible. And Lilan is lurking, which is never a good sign. So I'll keep my vote where it is for now, but I'm more open to alternatives. Once I see a No Lynch vote from Lilan, I'll be willing to do the same.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:00 am 
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48 hours until deadline.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:44 am 
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Yeah...not sure what to say here...having someone not let us know results is no good at all. Unless krampus has the ability to silence someone for a day. But that would not make sense, as, if all of the results we have right now are valid, you are correct, Lilan is the only one who could be scum.
I'm really not sure what else could change my mind at this point...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:51 am 
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Yeah, Lilan not showing up today really put a stopper on the game. Without her here we have nothing more to talk about.

@mod: if you haven't done so already, can you please poke Lilan?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:15 pm 
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sorry completely forgot this game existed, mb

i targeted KoD yesterday and got naughty, so barring shenanigans i'm paranoid. I'm catching up now.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:38 pm 
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So that makes three of us with a double scum result.

A possible Ace could be that all results come up as naughty for one night.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:14 pm 
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That is frustratingly possible. I suppose it would be better to hold off on the lunch one more day. But, as said, I will only vote no Lynch after Lilan does so.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:16 pm 
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@mod: can you tell us if it is possible for scum to activate their Ace and kill on the same night? I seem to recall it wasn't possible in other games.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:36 pm 
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I could see that making sense...although, to be honest, it would have made much more sense a few days ago...
Unless that happened, it's clearly Lilan, but, knowing that there's something that scum can do, and that it's not what it's been before, that does make a ton of sense.
Vote: No Lynch


Just in case I'm not on when it comes down to the deadline

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:45 pm 
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Aaarrrgh wrote:
@mod: can you tell us if it is possible for scum to activate their Ace and kill on the same night? I seem to recall it wasn't possible in other games.


I could, but I won't. :thbbbt:

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:47 pm 
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Do we know what happens in a tie?

Vote: No lynch


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:43 am 
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That's irrelevant because aaarrrgh single handedly killed lilan. Well played Krampus. Well played.

So evil aaarrrgh wins the game...<_<

Or he kills evil lilan...>_>

One of the two...<_<

it's both

KoD was sane, Neo insane, Aaarrrgh was naive and dusky paranoid. Lilan's second ability was to deposit a lump of coal on another player that would override all sanities and return a naughty result whenever they were investigated (one shot, used on herself N1). The rest is history as they say.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:04 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:15 am 
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Uh, good?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:27 am 
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Good thing I was dead. I can't begin to explain just how much I sat here, dead, yelling at my screen that Dusky was the Krampus.


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